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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: I asked Mr. Dunne earlier whether he was aware of the function of the Comptroller and Auditor General. One of the central charges being made by some people within the organisation is that all of this was kept in-house. Mr. Dunne might be aware that Mr. Kelly referred to a circling of the wagons and keeping it internal. Mr. Barrett made similar accusations as well. Let us bear in mind that...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: I find that incredible. Let us go back to the July meeting in 2015. Mr. Dunne was due to brief the audit committee but that did not happen. This goes back to my criticism of Mr. Dunne not reading the report. Mr. Dunne has gone through this with An Teachta McDonald. Mr. Dunne said that he believed he should gather more information, which is the reason he did not bring this to the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Dunne did not have the right, at that point in time, in my view, to make that call. The document I have before me states that the report was compiled so that the chief administrative officer would brief the audit committee in June. This did not happen. Page 15 of the interim audit report states that in progressing the issues internal audit concluded that GIAS should have been informed...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Sorry, Mr. Dunne. I accept all of that. What I am saying is that there is a strong criticism in the internal audit report which suggests that internal audit was the body best placed to do that investigative work. This goes back to what I said earlier. There was a sense that those involved would deal with it in-house and would not allow internal audit, the audit committee or the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Dunne does not accept internal audit finding in that regard. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: I will come back to Mr. Dunne because-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: I believe there is an irreconcilable difference between what internal audit is saying and what Mr. Dunne has said. I will come back to that later. I have one final question for Mr. McCabe. Deputy McDonald put this to Mr. McCabe earlier. I have before me a note with an account of Mr. McCabe's contribution in which he says this could have been career-ending for him because of the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: The Commissioner accepted that there were financial irregularities. Internal audit says there were financial irregularities. Yet, Mr. McCabe was in a very senior management position at the time in the Garda training college. Surely, Mr. McCabe must take some responsibility for the fact that these irregularities existed under his watch. Would he at least accept that today?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: The Commissioner accepted financial irregularities. We will have the Commissioner before the committee next week. I will put those questions to her. I will put to her the responses of Ms McMahon, Mr. McCabe, Ms Nugent, Mr. Dunne, Mr. Nugent, Mr. Ó Cualáin and Mr. McGee. Mr. McCabe was in a very senior position. The Commissioner accepts that there were financial irregularities...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: If there were financial irregularities, they happened on Mr. McCabe's watch.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: I am not talking about criminal wrongdoing but about financial irregularities.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: I will come back to the matter in the afternoon.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Perhaps I can be helpful to Deputy Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Dunne, it was not just relating to what was said. The criticism from internal audit was that in the first instance a copy of the report, which should have been given in July but then was given verbally in September, was not circulated prior to that and was raised under "any other business". That, coupled with what the internal auditor is saying, leads us to believe that it was not given...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: I will say to the witnesses that we, as members of the Committee of Public Accounts, have no axe to grind. We are dealing with an internal audit report which was presented to us. In fact, it came from a leak. We may have got it anyway over the course of time, but we are dealing with an internal audit report which was not done by us. It was done by internal audit in An Garda...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: It is more than that. We know they were missed opportunities. This is not just about moving on. We have to understand why it did not happen, because one of the things that the Garda Commissioner was clear about when she was in was that there has to be accountability and transparency. When there were breakdowns in communication, if people did not do their jobs, it had to be noted, accepted...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: When Mr. Ó Cualáin answers, certainly, Mr. Dunne can speak. I put the question to Mr. Ó Cualáin.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: It was obvious that nobody has accepted any responsibility. Mr. Ó Cualáin is saying that these were past mistakes, but not one single individual in the room has acknowledged any mistake on his or her part.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Dunne accepts that, and we should note that and that will be accepted. That is the first acknowledgement-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: -----and possibly the only acknowledgement. While Mr. Dunne is on that subject, he was presented with a report from Mr. Barrett on 6 July 2015. Is he familiar with that?