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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. I think we will discuss it on that day, perhaps in a specific period. The section 38 and section 39 organisations have available to them €4 billion of taxpayers' money. The Comptroller and Auditor General has a comment on it in the annual report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: That will be part of the discussion, as well as the ongoing issues. As we will need a full day, people can schedule it at this stage. The next item is No. 782B, correspondence dated 3 October in my name. I forwarded a link to the Garda interim report as I did not think it had been formally sent to the Committee of Public Accounts. I think we all got a copy of it so I have made sure that...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Let us scroll up the screen.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The document shows that the audit for Mayo, Sligo and Leitrim is still being reviewed. We are talking about the year 2015. One can see from the screen that that is the end of the ETBs.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: There has been a lot of public controversy about one or two of these ETBs.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: In the first instance, and we will get some details, I propose that this committee, today, write to the chairman of each of those ETBs, in respect of the 2015 audit, stating that we will not accept any excuse. I will allow people to comment but I think we need to write to the chairmen. We are asking that the chairmen formally put our letter on the agenda of their next meetings, not just...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: No, just those ones that have not completed the audit and been certified.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is about the four ETBs - Louth and Meath; Mayo, Sligo and Leitrim;-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----and Kildare and Wicklow. We will discuss the 2016 audits shortly.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will come to the work programme. A meeting might not happen in the coming weeks but we will certainly debate the topics of education and third level institutions-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will come to the work programme.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will hold the topic over because we will deal with the work programme in a few minutes. There will definitely be an opportunity. Does Deputy Catherine Murphy wish to comment?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The letter that can be seen on the screen was received this morning so we have not had an opportunity to circulate same. It just arrived this morning from the Secretary General for the Department of Education and Skills. He referred to the 2015 audit, to the fact that a number of issues were brought to the attention of the Department of Education and Skills, and that the Department sought a...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will send out those letters in relation to 2015 and we will ask for a response from the chairmen immediately after their next monthly meeting. Is that okay? The next item is category C, which is correspondence that relates to private individuals. No. 769C is correspondence dated 25 September 2017 from Deputy Bríd Smith requesting the committee to consider inviting representatives...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: No, but the Department does, so we will write to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will work through the Department in the first instance.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Next is No. 777C, a budget submission from the Irish Hospice Foundation. We will note it. No. 778C is correspondence dated 5 September. I forwarded an email that I received from an individual, Mr. Douglas Fannin, who has been in contact with the committee numerous times. He circulated a copy of a newspaper article from a few years ago. The secretariat informs me that we last dealt with...

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