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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. It is the system. When we get a response, we will decide what to do. No. 780C is correspondence from Deputy MacSharry following up on the acting Commissioner's appearance before the committee last week. Deputy Kelly has sent correspondence on the same matter. Does Deputy MacSharry wish to speak to the issue? We will deal with the----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Cullinane indicated, but I will invite Deputy Kelly first because he has sent in correspondence.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does the chief superintendent of an area not have the ability to move staff from station to station?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Maybe.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will not get into the details now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: In the Deputy's area.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand what is being said. Many different angles have been covered and there has been a broad-ranging debate. The committee must be clear and logical and ensure we get to a conclusion if we are revisiting this. I propose that we agree what members have accepted but I want a detailed and specific proposal to be prepared this week by the secretariat for the committee to sign off on...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes, to the committee members.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The document will only be a proposal to be considered. There is one other item of correspondence, No. 760. Deputy Cullinane is aware of this or sent it to the committee. It deals with a person's engagement with the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection regarding the carer's allowance. The person is an employee of the Department and the Office of the Parliamentary Legal...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The suggestion is that in advance of our next engagement with the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection as part of our work programme, the committee will put it on notice that we will want to deal with its review and appeals mechanism.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: There is an initial internal review process. As members know, a different deciding officer can do a quick internal review and thereafter it can go to the appeals office.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The committee need a detailed note on that process. We will also bring in the Social Welfare Appeals Office in its own right. Statements and accounts since the last meeting have been put up on the screen. There is a clear audit opinion for the Marine Institute, the National Transport Authority, Pobal and the Residential Institutions Redress Board. We will ask the Comptroller and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will do so today. The next item is a clear audit opinion for Beaumont Hospital but attention is again drawn to expenditure totalling €1.3 million involving goods and services that were not procured by way of competitive process. There is a clear audit opinion in respect of Teagasc but with non-competitive procurement of services to the value of 725,000. I suggest we write to both...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is a technical adjustment. It was not captured in the Supplementary Estimate of December of that year and when the audit later came up there was an issue with procedures requiring Oireachtas approval retrospectively. It happened to be small amount though it could have been bigger. It is a technical adjustment so I ask Mr. McCarthy to prepare a note in advance of the committee meeting...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Very good. The next item, after the four statements of accounts received, is the work programme. It is on the screen in front of members. Next Thursday, we will have a paper on how to handle Stepaside Garda station and we will incorporate it into our work programme next week. I will go through the logic. Today, we have IDA Ireland financial statements. We decided at the commencement...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We might have a second meeting some week, but not too many. The Comptroller and Auditor General's report came out last Friday. It has 24 chapters. The basic function of the Committee of Public Accounts is to review those. We have to go over them. Some will be combined; three chapters relate to social welfare. Our basic work, despite everything else on our agenda, is the Comptroller and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: That would involve the HSE. It is scheduled to attend. We would have to give it a couple of weeks of notice.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Perhaps that might be in the first meeting in January. The HSE is scheduled to attend on 26 October. It may be able to attend before Christmas, but it can attend, at latest, by January.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (5 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Next week.

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