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Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: As a Member of the Seanad, I demand that Senators do not speak to Ministers in that manner.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: I am surprised at the Senator.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: The Senator will not speak in that rude manner in front of me, in the same Chamber. Have some manners.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: Can I get to my point?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: I will get to my point.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: On the plebiscite, the Bill as originally published was so wanton and loose about who could in the future own Irish Water, that I actually felt that it was nearly a ready-up for privatisation. I just need a little more convincing on the Bill as it stands. I ask this question of the Minister and of the Senators. Section 2(1) states:A Bill providing or allowing for the alienation of any share...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: However, everyone is forgetting the second one.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: The section continues:(b) a proposal to provide or allow for such alienation is submitted by Plebiscite for the decision of the PeopleI am a selected Member of the House. However, are other Senators, as elected Members of the House, saying they will not know the force, thrust, ideas, belief and values of the people? Is that what they are saying?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: Are those Senators, who go home to their local areas every evening, saying they will not know that? Are they separating the dancer from the dance? Are they saying they would do something in absolute contradiction of what the people want, feel and value? Is that what you are saying? It that the way you are saying that people elected in the future will act and ignore the what the people...

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: You cannot because you are elected as the voice of the people. That is why you are here. That is why you will be here in the future when I am long gone through the revolving doors to the delight of many and the despair of others.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: That is what you will be doing. Are you saying you will ignore that?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: Yes, but you ignore that.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: Is that what you are saying?

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: That section of the Bill is terribly important. That holds the plebiscite to account. It cannot ignore the will of the people.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: You have to accept that.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: I am just asking you to think about that.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: We are supposed to be having a debate here today about a very serious-----

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: ----- issue of the privatisation versus public ownership of Irish Water, which I think is the nub of the problem. I believe we should pay for water. We should purify it, conserve it and supply it. As Senator Mary Ann O'Brien has said, we have gone a Wizard of Oz way around it. I believe we should pay for it, but this is the nub of the problem - having pride in our water and holding it....

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: Argue that. Riddle me that.

Seanad: Water Services Bill 2014: Committee Stage (19 Dec 2014)

Marie Louise O'Donnell: It was not.

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