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Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: How many cases were heard in the court last year? There were 2,648 judgments.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: That equates to approximately 6,000 court notices per annum.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Approximately 50% worked their way through the system. Would some people pay at that stage?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Would the company settle for less than the €150 at that point?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The company does not want to go to court.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Discipline must be maintained. I speak in Mr. O'Neill's favour in saying that.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: A big figure mentioned by Deputy Catherine Connolly as noted on pages 35, 45 and 46 is for VAT. There is a figure of €45 million. It is the item on the last page of the accounts. Over a period €100 million in VAT has been paid to the Revenue Commissioners.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is at the top of page 46. Last January the European Court of Justice ruled that this money should not have had to be paid.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Why is it taking so long to get the money back from the Revenue Commissioners? They are a very efficient outfit.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am asking Mr. O'Neill why it is taking so long. What contacts have been made on his side? Is it going somewhere else?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: There are calculations to be worked out for inputs.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is the €45 million I mentioned? In addition to the €100 million that the court indicated should not have been paid, is there another €45 million provided for also? Who will explain the two figures?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Why is that?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Could the reverse charge of VAT be explained for the ordinary viewer in non-technical language?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will the Comptroller and Auditor General speak about the VAT?

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: When we look at the public private partnership motorway projects listed here, including all the liabilities outstanding in the various big schemes, the costs which are quoted to the committee for a motorway project does not include the VAT which TII pays directly.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I know that.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: And when TII tells the committee that a scheme costs €248 million, that includes the VAT that it paid.

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand. Will the Comptroller and Auditor General advise the committee on this VAT issue? It would have crossed his desk as part of the audit. He is saying that this figure of €100 million is a non-adjusting event. Is that the big figure? This €100 million came in after the year end, but it relates to last year. Why would that be? It is a very large figure to say...

Public Accounts Committee: Transport Infrastructure Ireland: Financial Statements 2016 (12 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is why I ask. How soon does TII expect to have its figures completed? Most of the information regarding VAT inputs and so on has to be in Mr. Wylde's organisation. I am sorry, this may be a bit boring but it exercises the public mind when people hear we have been paying VAT and we should not have been. Mr. Wylde will understand that this resonates with the public. Now, nine months...

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