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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Is that from the moment the agency is given a letter?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Many variables can lead to that figure changing. At any given point in time, that figure is the best estimate of the agency. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Why is it such a big figure? Why has there been such an increase from previous figures? It is going up all the time. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Why is that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: What value did the agency put on the consequences of that case?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: What was the value? Of the €3.15 billion, what value does the agency attribute to that case?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Few cases go to court. Is that right? Only a small percentage of cases go to court.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Approximately 97% are settled either through mediation or on the steps of the court. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I would expect the cost to go down. Let us leave aside the awards for the moment. What about the legal costs? We would expect them to go down. Is that not the case?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I understand that. Mr. Breen has set that out before and has set out the improved methods in place.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I have waylaid Mr. Breen. I will come back to costs in a moment. The State Claims Agency praises itself for the reduction. I see that on page 48 of the document and I will come to it. The figure of €3.15 billion is because courts are giving higher awards in the small number of cases that go to court, but they set the precedent for the other cases. Are there higher awards? Is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Are all of those variables accounted for in this figure?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Does Mr. Breen expect that figure to increase next year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: How high does Mr. Breen expect it to increase?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Page 47 outlines some of the mass actions in process.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: As a woman, one could take a social history from this. We have mother and baby homes, the Shine abuse case, thalidomide and symphysiotomy. Some university might take this up and examine how women were treated. For the purpose of this mass action, we have the lack of in-cell sanitation. I will come to those specifically because I want to ask questions. What value has the State Claims...

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: All of those.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: They are not part of the €3.15 billion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I see.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 21 - Accounts of the National Treasury Management Agency
National Treasury Management Agency Financial Statements 2018
(4 Jul 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Does Mr. Breen want to go through the rest of them while we are on it? I want to come back in and ask questions about them separately, but just overall-----

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