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Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I move amendment No. 15:In page 13, lines 25 and 26, to delete “local authority chief executive” and substitute “Elected Council in consultation with Stakeholder and Community Group”.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I move amendment No. 16:In page 13, line 28, to delete “local authority chief executive” and substitute “Elected Council in consultation with Stakeholder and Community Group”.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I move amendment No. 17:In page 13, line 30, to delete “local authority chief executive” and substitute “Elected Council in consultation with Stakeholder and Community Group”.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I move amendment No. 18:In page 13, line 31, to delete “local authority chief executive” and substitute “Elected Council in consultation with Stakeholder and Community Group”.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I move amendment No. 4:In page 8, to delete lines 23 to 38, and in page 9, to delete lines 1 to 30.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I move amendment No. 5:In page 9, line 33, to delete “local authority chief executive” and substitute “Elected Council in consultation with Stakeholder and Community Group”.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Let us do it.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: How do we get to the kernel of this issue? The Minister made reference to due diligence earlier and during the Committee Stage debate I pointed out that the due diligence process was obstructed. Local councillors were told recently that due diligence is unable to proceed because of commercial sensitivity. That is the kernel of the problem. The harbour is seen as a commercially focused,...

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Of course, a harbour is not Killiney Hill, but there is a mix of imperatives involved and the balance of these imperatives depends on the particular harbour. Dún Laoghaire Harbour has traditionally been half and half, so to speak. It has been a public amenity for heritage, sport and recreation as well as a commercial port. There is a balance to be maintained and I accept that this...

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: On the company law point, that is true, but the bottom line is that it still falls back on the council either way. Even if, technically, the liabilities do not transfer directly to the council, ultimately, it will still pick up the tab if anything goes wrong. It will be the guarantor of everything. Have we not learned this at a macro level? When we give guarantees and so on, we end up...

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Their decision to put money in would be dictated by their ability to get a return. In the case of something like a harbour this would be a slippery slope towards the creeping privatisation of the harbour through the back door.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I move amendment No. 3:In page 8, lines 19 to 22, to delete all words from and including “Subject” in line 19 down to and including line 22 and substitute the following:“Subject to paragraphs (b) and (c), a local authority chief executive may not sell, transfer, exchange, surrender or otherwise dispose of any shares vested in the local authority of which he or she is the...

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: In one a corporate subsidiary is retained, while in the other there is not a separate corporate entity. The Minister said there was not a separate corporate entity, but, if not, what is the difference? The difference is there is a separate entity. The existing separate, commercial corporate entity is retained under the umbrella of the council. I do not know anything about Foynes port in...

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: -----but in the specific case of Dún Laoghaire, we propose that this option be taken off the table. We want full integration of the harbour company as a department of the council.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Deputy Mary Mitchell O'Connor's question should be directed at the Minister because he has set out two options in his Bill. They are not described in our amendments. The passage of the Bill will mean that it will be in the Minister's gift to make a decision on which of the options will apply to Dún Laoghaire Harbour. The first option is that Dún Laoghaire Harbour Company will...

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Under both models, the council will pay. That is what the Minister proposes and the Deputy should ask him who will pay for it, not me. In either case because of what is proposed in the legislation, whatever happens in Dún Laoghaire Harbour will be paid for by the public. It is a disingenuous red herring to suggest that if People Before Profit or Save our Seafront or whichever group...

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: These amendments specifically relate to Dún Laoghaire Harbour. While the Harbours Bill is an appropriate place to discuss Foynes Port and all the rest of it, the amendments deal with Dún Laoghaire Harbour, not Foynes Port or anywhere else. I agree with the point made about the cost of inflated executive salaries and so on.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: That is the point.

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I am. In Dún Laoghaire the chief executive receives €136,000 a year, plus approximately €20,000 on top for various extras. The recommended salary for other-----

Harbours Bill 2015: Report and Final Stages (2 Dec 2015)

Richard Boyd Barrett: A Cheann Comhairle, I have to say-----

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