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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: A sum of over €1 billion comes to Ireland out of that fund. It does not come through the State accounts or the Estimates, and does not come through the Dáil at any stage. We have discussed this matter when we got the FEOGA accounts because the matter arose when we had the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine here. There are a few extra accounts out there.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Comptroller and Auditor General might give us a note on these extra accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. Like the environment one such as the motor tax account and social insurance-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Who is the Accounting Officer for the account that the Comptroller and Auditor General has just referred to?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: A period of clawback.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Stay there.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Ultimately, in regard to real property as in buildings or land, if somebody comes back he or she can ask to have the company reinstated, within the 20-year period, and get his or her assets back. That is probably why the assets have to be held for 20 years----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----before anyone else get his or her hands on them.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will ask the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform for a detailed note-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----because we have identified a gap. The next item is No. 814C from Sage support and advocacy services, which attaches a discussion document entitled Contracts of Care for Nursing Home Residents - Issues of Policy and Practice. The matter will be of interest to members. As a matter of policy, I propose we forward it to the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Health for its consideration....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What happens between when the Comptroller and Auditor General certifies them and their being presented? Have they to go to the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I think we need to write to the Chairman of the National College of Art and Design asking where their 2015 and 2016 accounts are-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----because the Comptroller and Auditor General has not seen them yet.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I think we will ask for a detailed response.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will still write to the Chairman-----

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