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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: We can discuss Poolbeg under that heading as well? There is a specific figure in regard to this matter. We can bring that in as the topic is all to do with waste. Nos. 3C.1 and 3C.2 relate to today’s meeting, the opening statement and so forth. Nos. 4.1 to 4.8, inclusive, are the various statements of accounts received since 23 October 2014. We will examine the local government...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes, we will ask officials from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform to attend. We can discuss procurement as a separate topic and clear the agenda. The clerk will bring forward the work programme when we resume. We will change or adjust the current work programme to take in all of the different issues that were raised by members.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: I ask Deputy O'Donnell to conclude after this reply.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: I thank Deputy O'Donnell. Can we dispose of the-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: That would be useful.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: How many staff were lost?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Will the departmental officials provide a note on the funding issues relevant to the IT solutions that are proposed and indicating a timeframe for implementation?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: It would be helpful to know if there is a shortfall in the budget or if funding for this has been refused. It would be useful to know where the blockage is.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: It would not. This matter is not the health committee's remit. Our remit is governance as well as-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Do not give up your turf.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Before I call Deputy Fleming, how does one apply the code or why is the code not applied to some procedures? Professor Keane said the code has to be applied or each procedure has to have a code in order to get paid. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Not very long.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: These other procedures are not included in those diagnostic groups.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: If they do not get coded, the hospital does not get paid.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Who suffers then because of that? Who is out of pocket because of it? Is it the hospital administration? The consultant? Who is it that suffers?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: The person carrying out the procedure gets paid anyway. Is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes. They get paid anyway?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: They are not doing it for free.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 83 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Managing Elective Day Surgery (6 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: They get paid their salary anyway. Therefore, for these non-coded procedures, it is the hospital that loses out.

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