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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: To be fair to the witnesses, it is probably not a question that they get.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: I ask Dr. Holohan to comment on adoption. Yesterday, the Deputy made a valid point about the need to educate people in schools about the adoption process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: We discussed that yesterday.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: I think that was on another point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: To expand on Deputy Fitzpatrick's point, what is the incidence of adoption? Does Dr. Holohan have any comments on adoption as an alternative?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: We cannot discuss it today but it should be discussed at a committee in due course.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: There will be a lot of matters considered in our report that will involve recommendations to the Departments of Education and Skills, Health, Children and Youth Affairs.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: We have had evidence about that anyway. Dr. Holohan wanted to make a contribution.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: I have allowed a little more latitude because there are fewer members here today because it is Thursday afternoon. I call Deputy O'Reilly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: We have time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Would Dr. Holohan like to come in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Deputy Murphy has six minutes and, to be fair, a bit more if she wants.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: I appreciate that Deputy Murphy waited to make that point. It can create argy bargy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: By all means indicate to me. Dr. Holohan always indicates when he wishes to come in. If anyone wishes to come in they should stick up their hand.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: As regards the national standards for bereavement care following pregnancy loss and perinatal death, which is mentioned on page 4 of Mr. Woods' presentation, he said that in 2016 resources were secured to appoint a clinical midwife specialist in bereavement to all maternity hospital units that did not already have one and that recruitment to fill those important posts is currently under way....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Six of 19 units have yet to recruit such a specialist.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: It is difficult to chair the meeting and ask questions at the same time. That indicates that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: Is the position unattractive?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: "Challenging" might be synonymous with "unattractive" in this context and also in politics. As regards the folic acid point raised by Deputy O'Connell, which is an issue I am very interested in and on which I have done some work, approximately 100 babies are born every year with a condition the incidence of which could be dramatically reduced were folic acid to be standard fare for women of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Ancillary Recommendations of the Citizens' Assembly Report: Department of Health and the HSE (30 Nov 2017)

Catherine Noone: From his medical experience, does Dr. McKenna think there could be negative impacts to taking folic acid?

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