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Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: In that regard, in the research referred to on page 7 of the document he submitted, Mr. Moran said:As a real estate advisory firm, it is our job to advise clients on real estate issues. It is therefore imperative that we understand levels and impact of risk. Prior to the banking crisis, we were advising our clients on the nature and impacts of the property market and how it was performing....

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Does Jones Lang LaSalle deal in development land on which houses will later be built?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: I am aware Mr. Moran's competitors were involved in significant deals with development land which was earmarked for housing. Was Mr. Moran's company involved in such deals?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Does Mr. Moran see a relationship between what happened-----

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Mr. Moran said also on page 7: "By 2008, there was a recognition within the property industry that market conditions were over-heating, however I do not believe that most market participants realised the extent of bank lending to the property market". Mr. Moran was at the coalface. He saw the size of the deals that were going down and the huge increase in price for commercial properties....

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Did developers Mr. Moran acted for not discuss with him how they were going to fund the purchase?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: On page 6, Mr. Moran said, "Irish yields tightened significantly between 2003 and 2006, compressing from 6.00% to 3.70% for prime offices for example. At these levels, international purchasers were priced out of the market, with more competitive yields available in other European countries". Do I understand that European capitalists became wary of what was going on because they felt that...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Yes, but if I could interrupt, Mr. Moran, if they thought there were significant yields in Ireland given that capitalists go where there is profit, why were they so wary as to move?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Should that not have sounded alarm bells with estate agents and developers?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Should that fact have sounded alarms bells with estates agents such as Jones Lang LaSalle and the people they were advising?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Looking at the period from 2002 or 2003 to 2007, Jones Lang LaSalle and estate agents generally would have been market participants in the huge increases in land prices etc. Presumably, estate agents made good money from that. In a book authored by Shane Ross and Nick Webb, on page 161 they say:Looking back at that period, you could have advised a developer to pay tens of millions for a...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Can Mr. Moran tell me a little bit about the syndicates that operated in the market? What was their main field of activity and what was the profile of their participants?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: When Mr. Moran says "high net worth" does he mean very rich people?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Would they have any expertise in the area they were putting money into?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: I have seen some deals, for example, concerning doctors, lawyers and such people being involved in syndicates, buying development land. What expertise or interest would those people have in buying development land that was, say, for housing?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: May I ask whose side estate agents are on? Whose side are the boys on? I ask that in reference to a predecessor of Mr. Moran who, in 2006, made this statement: "Amazingly, the fundamental that is missed by those looking at the property market is that the price of land is high because the price that people are prepared to pay for houses is high, not vice versa." The suggestion there is...

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: The witness said he began to advise clients towards the end of 2005 to sell and to be cautious. Those clients included syndicates, people he himself described as high net worth individuals or very rich people.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Jones Lang LaSalle had nothing to do with syndicates.

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: What was Mr. Moran advising syndicates to do?

Committee of Inquiry into the Banking Crisis: Context Phase (2 Apr 2015)

Joe Higgins: Mr. Moran said that former clients did not want to listen, in his words. Did greed for profits play a role in skewing their judgment?

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