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Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is obvious, and it is the lowest I have ever seen in a set of accounts and Mr. McBride is to be commended. Then I move to page 34 and look at board members' fees, and I see some directors have waived their fees entirely. That is a great news item that I have not seen too often before, and the directors concerned are to be complimented if they feel they want to provide all of their time...

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I presume their hearts are in the right place, and it says something to me about the board that some do not take their fee and do not even claim travel. We do not see it very often in the Committee of Public Accounts and I want to highlight it. The committee had quite detailed discussions about another person's travel and expenses, and it is important from the board's point of view to put...

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Believe it or not, people do watch Oireachtas television, and I ask Mr. McBride to explain to the viewers the difference between social workers and social care workers.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand. Page 20 deals with the emergency out of hours service. How much financially has Tusla invested in this? It states the emergency out of hours service provides a call centre, with access to a local on-call social worker for An Garda Síochána for consultation and advice. What does that mean? What is the relationship? The word "local" is used. For example, how many...

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What kind of cost is involved? Clearly it is a very important issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What Mr. McBride is saying is that a member of the Garda Síochána comes across an incident first, and he or she then rings the social worker and it is not the other way around.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is the out of hours service. Is that phone line manned by Tusla staff or by external staff?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: They would want access to very confidential private data.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will move on to page 22 which refers to general residential services. What does that mean? To take the most difficult cases, is Tusla involved in managing Oberstown and such places?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Who manages Oberstown?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What about staffing?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is outside Tusla.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is also outside the Prison Service.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: That area has experienced much difficulty in terms of staffing.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What age group does Tusla deal with?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: With regard to the vulnerable children on Tusla's books, and we dealt with this question a few years ago in respect of the HSE, have many children received injuries or died while in its care? Can Mr. McBride discuss that issue? What monitoring or recording system is in place? I know some children die of natural causes, but in some cases they might not.

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: How many was that last year?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Were there more boys than girls?

Public Accounts Committee: Tusla - Financial Statements 2016 (19 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What group produces that report?

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