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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: What staff came over from the old Department to the Department of Agriculture?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: The whole section came over to the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: I understand that but the section that dealt with all of the harbours pre-mid-2008 came over then to the Mr. O'Moran's Department. Who was in charge of that section? They came into Mr. Moran's Department in 2008.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Can Mr. Moran tell me who was in charge of the section that he took over?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: I know what Mr. Moran took over. Can he tell me who was in charge of the section?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: No. I am asking Mr. Moran to name the official that was in charge of that section in the previous Department because he is telling me that they came over into his Department and, if that is not correct, please tell me that.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: What staff came over under the Department of Agriculture when the change was made?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: It was all of the same staff in all of these mixes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: What would they have been doing?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Is Mr. Beamish the only common denominator between the past and the present?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Nobody who was making the decision around this took any account of the corporate knowledge that was involved here because it was spread over various officials and two different Departments.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Deputy Costello can come back in on the issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. Moran. Can we publish his statement?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Deputy Costello has 20 minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Sorry, Mr. Moran. There is a mobile telephone somewhere on the desk. I ask you to remove it please as it is causing interference.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Can we ask Mr. Harkness to come in on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: I thank Mr. Harkness. Can we have Mr. Moran's opening statement?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: There are statements in today's file, for example, the fishery harbour centres financial statements 31 December 2007, which were signed off on 23 December 2011. There are serious issues therein in the context of what is before us today. If we could get an overview of the number of agencies that are way behind or in which there are difficulties and for which accounts have not been audited...

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