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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: What did Mr. Harkness discover prior to 2007? The Comptroller and Auditor General referred in the annual report to delays in the process in 2004. According to Mr. Moran and Dr. Beamish, these are legacy issues. When did the Comptroller and Auditor General's office identify the problems prior to 2007? The property sale was going on for 21 years. Surely that would have raised a red flag...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Where in the various accounts prior to 2007 can I see where the Comptroller and Auditor General flagged that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Did the Comptroller and Auditor General's office see this mess unfolding from 1999? Did this raise a red flag for the office? Did staff have harsh words for the previous Department that had charge of the mess?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: How was that the case when all this was going on?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: From 2007 poor Mr. Moran had an awful mess on his plate but it did not drop out of the sky. The mess was created prior to 2007. How was that uncovered? In 2006, the centres were given a clear audit. We know what happened in 2004 when there was a reference to delays while debt was flagged in 1999. Are the other reports clear audits, with the exception of 1999 and 2004? Mr. Harkness can...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Were they as serious as those with which we are dealing today?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: What does Mr. Kelly think of this? The overarching accounts narrative is the Comptroller and Auditor General flagging different issues, perhaps not as loudly as they should have been flagged, in that section. What was Mr. Kelly doing in this regard?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: We are talking about 2007 onwards but Mr. Kelly's Department was only told about this on 26 March this year.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Is there evidence in the Department or in the Department of Finance prior to Mr. Kelly's Department being established that something was seriously wrong with these harbours?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: For the Department to be happy about this, it would have relied on the Comptroller and Auditor General's report, which flagged a few issues here and there in the years prior to 2007 and on the internal audits of the Departments that had responsibility for the harbour centres. The Department was not told anything about this.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Which Act?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: It was in 2007 that Mr. Moran's Department took charge of all of this.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: This was in 2007.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: In 2008.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Mr. Moran did not take this on until 2008.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Who was there before that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Who was responsible for all these harbours before 2008?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: That is a Department within Government, is it not?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Who was in charge of that section within the old Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: I presume that too, but who was in charge of the marine section within that Department?

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