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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: What are the costs to date?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: You should have those figures with you, Mr. Murnane.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Excuse me; I do not think that is what Deputy Costello is asking. He is asking for a business plan, and Mr. Murnane's answer would seem to indicate that he will agree with the business plan on some sort of timeline down along the road. Deputy Costello and the other members would like to understand what exactly is Mr. Murnane's approach to this plan and what it will involve. Would that be...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: It is not just about answers some time in the future.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: I ask Mr. Gleeson about the plan that was submitted arising from the Indecon report. Does it include a business plan on the disposal of assets?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: What the Department has is a general approach to a plan-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: -----with some timeframes in it-----

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: -----but nothing really specific, because Ms Larkin and the board are working on that in the context of zoning, etc.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: So there will be a period of time from now into the future within which some of this may or may not be achieved, because zoning is not an immediate matter. It could take Bord na gCon a considerable length of time. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: May we publish Mr. Meany's statement?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: May we publish Ms Larkin's statement?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Before we begin, I remind members, visitors and those in the Visitors Gallery to turn off their mobile phones as they affect the sound quality and the transmission of the meeting. I advise witnesses that they are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence they are to give this committee. If they are directed by the committee to cease giving evidence in relation to a...

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: I call on Mr. Gleeson, from the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine to introduce his officials.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report No. 86 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Bord na gCon (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: I ask the Comptroller and Auditor General, Mr. McCarthy, to introduce the report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: We are not turning back on decisions. We are just trying to clarify the position on this legislation by requesting an opinion from the Attorney General.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: We have to try and get the best advice on this because it is the first case. The person in question has made what appears to be a significant disclosure and his position is now in difficulty. There is no harm in asking the Attorney General if we do not want to ask the legal advisers.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: Deputy O'Donnell may speak, followed by Deputies Costello and McDonald. Let us try to move on from here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: We can clarify all of that in the meeting with the Revenue Commissioners next week. We have asked for the legal advice in writing - Deputy Dowds raised the issue earlier - and we will seek that from our own office and have it circulated. We will get the risk assessment done as well. At our meeting of 4 December 2014, we will deal with the account of revenues collected by the Revenue...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: The response to that last week was that the legal advice was sought by the committee from the legal section in the Oireachtas. We got that advice. Mr. Ryan then gave us a copy of his advice. The respective sets of advice differ and both advisers hold their positions. Our legal advisers tell us we have their advice and it is what it is. If we want to get a second opinion on it - as...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (27 Nov 2014)

John McGuinness: A request goes to the parliamentary legal adviser.

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