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Seanad: Health Insurance (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2011: Second Stage (8 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: We will have to cancel the debate so.

Seanad: Health Insurance (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2011: Second Stage (8 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: No, it is not.

Seanad: Health Insurance (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2011: Second Stage (8 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: The Senator cannot resist it.

Seanad: Health Insurance (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2011: Second Stage (8 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: Fianna Fáil Deputies left the party.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: With regard to the figure of €3.3 million for ushers and criers, of which there are 44 and 41, respectively, the Minister of State is saying that that is a substantial cost to the courts system, but of course we must understand that this cannot be a saving, because even if we do abolish the posts of usher and crier, these pay costs will still accrue because the people involved will simply...

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: And rightly so.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: Hear, hear. I agree.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: Senator Cullinane is attempting to insert this amendment into the Bill which I find a little peculiar. It is an obvious and blatant attempt at political point scoring and to be seen to be raising issues which are totally irrelevant to the Bill, which is dealing with a referendum. Any of these issues can be dealt with in another manner.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: I understand that.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: I am not in any way questioning the legitimacy of the amendment, rather I am questioning its relevance. There is a difference. Restating the entire argument proposed by the Senator for the budget, another piece of legislation, almost word for word hints at the real motivation. It is not appropriate. Everyone shares the sentiment that we should reduce costs wherever we can. I agree with...

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: The Senator's amendment was not appropriate.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: The Minister of State is worth it.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: The Minister of State pre-empted me. I was going to draw attention to one or two of the smaller internal anomalies but the Minister of State did it in a much more extensive manner than I was able. My party is a comfort to me. The record of the House will show that Sinn Féin attempted to oppose the entire Bill and is opposed to the reduction of judges' pay.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: The point is that Senator Cullinane is not very sure what he is talking about.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee and Remaining Stages (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: The motivation is clear.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Second Stage (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: I welcome the Minister. Most of what needs to be said about the Bill has been said but I want to stress that this is the result of the referendum. The people have spoken on this. It is our firm intention that everything we do in Government will be fair and seen to be fair and this is just one small element in that step. Our intent is clear on this, that voluntary reductions in pay are not...

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Second Stage (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: This does not deal with Ministers.

Seanad: Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest (Amendment) Bill 2011: Second Stage (7 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: They are younger staff.

Seanad: Budget 2012: Statements (6 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: We will not be found wanting.

Seanad: Budget 2012: Statements (6 Dec 2011)

John Gilroy: No, we will not be found wanting. We will stand by the Government.

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