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Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: The Minister is tinkering with the stamp duty.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: Exactly. I am amazed the Minister can make those comments without blushing because his used to be the party which talked about representing the plain people of Ireland.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: Absolutely.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: We are talking about the plain people of Ireland. I represent them too and perhaps more effectively than the Minister does now because he gave every appearance of giving a commitment that stamp duty would not be removed because it would go into the pockets of the seller. We are not talking about my understanding of it or the Minister's but about the understanding of the people his party...

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: If it is not necessary, I will simply add whatever little moral and intellectual value I have on this issue. I have a sheaf of letters from people who wrote to me stating that they bought on the understanding that they would not benefit by waiting. There is a moral obligation on the Government to backdate this measure to the time of that commitment. The Minister can engage in whatever...

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: According to the commentators, he certainly undermined the Minister's position very clearly.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: Let us put all that aside and just say the people of Ireland believed they had a commitment. There can be as much wriggle as the Minister likes. I know the Minister's constituency well because my roots are basically in the same bog and I know what people are saying down there. People who were unlucky enough to have bought houses are now faced with this. I am glad the Minister has made...

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: If the Minister is pointing his finger at me, I did not say that.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: Not by me.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: This is Senator O'Toole's amendment.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: He did it at the same time on RTE.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: The Tánaiste should consult the Internet. Does the Tánaiste state the Taoiseach never did this?

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: When did the Taoiseach state it?

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: The Minister should stop interrupting and he should speak through the Chair.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: I will be very brief as I am interested to hear what the Minister has to say. First I should say I am not impugning the Minister's honour at all, as he seems very tetchy on that.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: Indeed he was.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: I would not have to be a professional physiognomist to read the Minister's face, I can assure him.

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: Not at all, go on out of that. I would not accuse the Minister of consistency anyway because he tried to blackguard me——

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: ——from my decent parliamentary interruptions and then he riddled that poor lad——

Seanad: Finance (No. 2) Bill 2007: Committee Stage (3 Jul 2007)

David Norris: ——-with interruptions himself. So I am not expecting consistency from him and we did not get it on the stamp duty issue either.

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