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Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: That is a ridiculous answer.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: It is a very innocent question. I imagine if an NGO was working in the field, its people would feel they have been left out to dry by the Minister. He is implying they have some problem. The Minister said these organisations were scrutinising these facilities. Either they are scrutinising them or they are not.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: The heads of Bill have been produced. Previous pronouncements indicated the legislation was imminent. Those related to the establishment of the national preventative mechanism in order for us to ratify the protocol. It is supposed to be one of the advanced Bills. I expect many organisations will go into a frenzy if the Minister is saying this legislation is not imminent given that it is...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: I am concerned about this. The Minister listed six new places and one is in Monasterevin. The facility in Monasterevin has existed for years. Is there a new facility in Monasterevin? Why did he mention Monasterevin? The facility in Monasterevin has existed for a long period. If it is the same facility, then it is not one of the six new centres. If it is a new centre, that is grand....

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: Did I hear that six new centres have been opened and that, in answer to the Chair, the Minister confirmed-----

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: -----that one of them is in Monasterevin?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: There is a new centre in Monasterevin in addition to the existing facility.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: Those centres were opened this year. That is fine. I was looking for a yes or no answer.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: I support Deputy Ó Laoghaire in this regard. It is regrettable that we are finding this out now. My office had prepared much work to deal with and try to address his amendment. I am mindful that last June the Minister said there would be a review of how rape cases were conducted in Ireland. He gave us a commitment that there would be a package of proposals by the summer but it is...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: That is good. It is unusual that we are finding out only now.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: There is so much to say and a whole afternoon ahead of us to say it, which is great because it needs to be said. The points are basically the same for both sections and, therefore, we do not need to repeat them ad nauseam.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: Yes. The arguments are quite similar.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: That would be great. Nobody can be under any doubt but that we have a massive problem in how our criminal justice system deals with sexual crime. One need not be a genius to work that out, from the inconsistent sentencing and the traumatising of victims by putting them on trial to the pathetically low conviction rates, the broader cultural problems and so on. We should take as a given that...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: There are a lot of points to which to respond. The first is that I feel my contribution and that of Deputy Wallace are very much in defence of the Judiciary in some ways. I think Deputy O'Callaghan's example showed very clearly that judges are more than capable of taking previous crimes into consideration when they are giving their sentencing decisions. Although there have been some...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: What is the rationale for the formula?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: I would like to be convinced and would love to know who those people are. I would like to be convinced that the Bill will help them. I hope any legislation would help. Perhaps they know how the formula will work because I cannot see any logic to it. That was the question, although I do not doubt in any way the Minister of State's motivation. I do not doubt that there are people who are...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: What was the reason for picking a sentence of five years?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: If we are saying it is being brought forward to deal with judges who do not impose adequate sentences and if we are basing it on a sentence of five years, we are building on the foundations of the problem. The first sentence was a judicial decision. That is what we are trying to change. What was the empirical evidence in deciding on a sentence of five years? Why will the suspended...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: We are saved by the bell - a vote has been called in the Chamber.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: Just now.

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