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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will write to both.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The factual position.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the Department for the information. We are only seeking information.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will ask that we have it within ten days, such that we have it in advance of the next meeting. The next item of correspondence is No. 829C, dated 19 October 2017, informing us of the motion passed by the Oireachtas on Deputy Pat Deering's membership of the committee. We have already welcomed Deputy Deering. Correspondence item No. 831C, dated 17 October 2017, is from Ms Jennifer...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is the Comptroller and Auditor General working on the 2015 accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will the Comptroller and Auditor General explain to the committee what he has just said? He has asked the ETB to resubmit the accounts. Were they rejected? Did he send the 2016 accounts back to it?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: What the ETB presented was not satisfactory for audit so the Controller and Auditor General sent the accounts back and told the ETB to present them properly. How long does he expect this will take?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: Right.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. Once the accounts are with the Comptroller and Auditor General, that is the first hurdle.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: When is its year end? Is it the calendar year?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are still adamant that its 2017 accounts be presented for audit before the end of June 2018.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: By law.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The end of March?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: It has missed that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will write to it, more in hope, reminding it of its legal obligations and insisting it meets its legal obligations. We will actually say in the letter that we will pencil in a meeting for early April if the accounts have not been presented to the Comptroller and Auditor General. If it does not meet its 31 March deadline, it will be in here in April to answer why it missed the deadline....

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: We hear everywhere that regulators do not regulate. We are actually the regulator of this group. We are the regulator for any organisation with a statutory duty to report to the Oireachtas and be audited by us, and we should not fail in our duty.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: This is one of the reasons we will look at this sector and we will have a separate meeting on that. We will not fall back on our duties on this. Three months is the statutory deadline for the 2017 accounts and they will be brought before the committee in early April if they have not complied with the statutory position. No. 834 is correspondence dated 23 October from an individual...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Oct 2017)

Seán Fleming: The next item is the work programme. The issue the committee must discuss is how we will structure our meeting with representatives of the education and training boards, ETBs, on 16 November. We agreed at a previous meeting to invite representatives of the City of Dublin Education and Training Board, CDETB, given its size and scale. The secretariat has proposed having representatives of...

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