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Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: I hope and expect its publication will answer the Deputies' questions.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: It is my intention, once the HSE and the CervicalCheck programme have done their work in regard to what a new laboratory in the Coombe Hospital would look like, that we will put in place the entire project plan to make that happen. That will obviously have a staffing element and we will have to provide training for such staff.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: My understanding is that the final date for taking part in the review by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists was 7 June. My understanding is that it is due to be completed by the autumn. While I do not have a specific date for completion, I would expect it to be by the month of September.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: Not to be technical about it, the first thing we will be doing is making sure individual women are communicated with. I expect that is likely to happen in the month of September. My understanding is that the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists also will produce a composite report, which will be published. The first thing will be appropriate disclosure, unlike what has...

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: To be clear, it is the intention that disclosure will start taking place to individual women in early September and a group of stakeholders, including doctors, nurses and patient representatives, has already been put in place to prepare for that. In early September, disclosure to individual women will start.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: I do not believe there is. It is an operational matter for the HSE, although that is not to shirk the question. To be truthful, as we know only 10% of slides are read in the Coombe Hospital here in Ireland, and 90%-----

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: I will have to ask the HSE to provide that information.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: My view is that the Coombe Hospital has an ability, subject to appropriate investment and expansion, to do an awful lot more. Particularly as we move to HPV testing, this will provide an opportunity to look at the entire configuration of our screening programme. The HSE has undertaken to look at what the creation of a national laboratory at the Coombe would look like and the resources and...

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: That is a good question but I suggest it may be a question for Dr. Scally when he appears before the health committee. Although Deputy Connolly certainly did not say this, I do not believe Dr. Scally to be in any way naive. I believe him to be one of the most robust people we can possibly have to do this job. When he gets the bit between his teeth, he keeps on pursuing, and we saw that...

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: We do not have an accurate number for the Deputy in regard to the number of current claims but we can certainly get that to her tomorrow as it is readily available. I might provide her with another figure which she did not ask for but which I know she will be interested in, namely, what is the backlog today in terms of the number of women waiting for their smears. The Deputy will...

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: I do not have anything further to add. From my recollection, although I will check and revert to the Deputy tomorrow, Dr. Scally may have written to me to say he would take some more time. Certainly, as my reply to the Deputy's parliamentary question correctly stated, I met Dr. Scally on the same day I met the 221+ group at the Department. He updated me on his work in that regard and...

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: Yes.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: No. While I am sticking to the advice of my official, I have no knowledge of any other version of the report.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: I do not have to hand the date of when Dr. Scally found that out.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: I will certainly ask that. As the Deputy helpfully pointed out, Dr. Scally will appear before the health committee but I will certainly ask him-----

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: I will certainly ask Dr. Scally to provide the Deputy to provide him with that information.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: Yes, I will certainly ask the HSE to do that. For the patient representatives, I asked that the HSE issue a statement in that regard. That was done but the Deputy is asking for a clinical view in that regard-----

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: I will certainly ask for that. I do not mind saying the idea of a retrospective accreditation does not sit well with me. It sounds a bit like an oxymoron. Nevertheless, I am satisfied Dr. Scally was clear there was not a safety deficiency.

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: On the governance structure, I am not aware of any changes but I will have to ask the director general of the HSE, which I undertake to do. On the audit, my understanding is we will establish, as per Dr. Scally's report, a national screening committee later this year. It will interact with patients to decide how to audit appropriately, as opposed to what happened in this debacle. On...

Supplementary Report of the Scoping Inquiry into the CervicalCheck Screening Programme: Statements (19 Jun 2019)

Simon Harris: I would like it to happen and the representatives would like it to happen. I want it to happen in a manner that is acceptable and appropriate to them. I fully apologise as Minister for Health. On the final question, I will certainly ask the HSE to examine breaches of contract.

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