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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Can the Secretary General not see why we are concerned? It could be four different companies picking up the work of some other companies.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: How come the original arrangement was so shortsighted? It did not take us to the end of the process. It just took us for X number of months.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: X refers to 24 months or X number of months.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Was part of their contract not to advise and assist in completing the contract?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: No. When they were getting the contract was that the intention? Was it intended that the people who did all of the scoping and advised on the tender would assist the Department in signing off the contract with whoever the successful bidder would have been?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: None of us buys that. The Irish Water people said the same to us. That is guff and let us be straight about that now. I know it was said in this House. Irish Water told us its project was the biggest one since rural electrification and every other day we hear statements. I do not mean to be rude but there is more to it than all that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes. I am saying to my colleagues who say it that they are bluffing. The Secretary General can carry on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: What was the first duration?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: The first extension was granted.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: The second extension was granted.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: The second extension will have expired before we get to signing the contract. That does not sound good.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand that. However, going back to my first question, I do not believe it is any more complex today than when the process started. It indicates there was a lack of appreciation of the complexity in the times involved from day one and this was not envisaged.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: After Eir decided to roll out to 300,000 premises, how many bidders were in the field at that stage?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Has one dropped out?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Who are the two remaining bidders?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: What happens if one of them drops out? The remaining bidder will have the State over a barrel. Or do we go back to scratch?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: However, Mr. Griffin just said that he did not pre-empt Eir doing what it did with 300,000 premises and it added to the complexity. Now he is not pre-empting Eir doing something else.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Griffin should cover all risks.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand that. Moving away from those commercial, financial and legal advisers to the contract itself, if by next spring, the Department is down to one bidder, can the Department proceed with the terms that one bidder dictates?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We are in difficult territory then.

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