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Seanad: Screening of Third Country Transactions Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (24 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I welcome the pupils from Meánscoil Gharman in Wexford who are in the Visitors Gallery. They are guests of Senator Malcolm Byrne. It is good to see them here observing our proceedings. I hope they enjoy their day and wish them a safe journey whenever they decide to head home.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The purpose of the meeting today is for the joint committee to discuss the Transport Research Arena, TRA, event in April 2024 to be held in Dublin. On behalf of the committee, I am pleased to welcome: Mr. John McCarthy from the Department of Transport, chair of the TRA management committee; Ms Helen Hughes from Transport Infrastructure Ireland, TII; Ms Celine Crawford from Arup Ireland,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: For the record, I need to propose that Deputy Kenny take over for me and he needs to second the proposal. We then agree that he comes in to take over for me. I apologise for interrupting but this is the procedure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Is that agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Business of Joint Committee. (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We have an item of correspondence to discuss, so I suggest we go into private session. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I apologise for having to leave to vote in the Seanad. Does Deputy Kenny want to keep going with his questioning?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The origin of this discussion is an urban mobility conference in Seville I attended with Deputy Crowe. The TRA had a stand at the conference and that is how we discovered this event was to take place in Ireland. We thought we should let the world know, through our committee, how much activity is going to take place in Ireland. There will be innovation not just from Europe or any particular...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Deputy Matthews. I do not believe I have anybody else online so I will put a few questions myself. Does anybody else want to contribute at this point? I invite Ms Crawford to speak now, please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I presume that the conference teams are broad but active travel would very much be safe and inclusive transport because we are not just talking about safety here, we are asking whether people feel comfortable on a Luas service late at night, on a DART train or a Nitelink bus? Inclusive transport should be for everybody, be they mobility challenged, and so on. On the other side, there is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: If I may add something on the same point, if Deputy Lowry does not mind, is there a trade aspect to this where people are pitching their ideas where here we are, for instance, with our integrated ticketing system, sustainable fuel for buses or Leap card-type scenario, or whatever it is? Many innovations have happened in the past 20 years which we take for granted now such as real time...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Pitch their wares.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We will not be charging for the advertising for this today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I call Deputy Matthews.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I know I will eventually get in. I am the Chair. Anyway, go on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We visited as a committee. It is very interesting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I will ask a few questions. I apologise for not being here the whole time because of voting and so on, but we are back and I had read the opening statement in advance and have gone back over it. The topics themselves, while broad, are so relevant now. In my time in politics, I saw changes including the M50 finally being finished, the Luas, DART, Leap cards coming in, and real time bus...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We have covered a lot regarding aviation in this committee over the lifetime of this Dáil and Seanad, and Ireland has such a rich history of aviation that a lot of the world probably does not appreciate that, for example, duty-free as a concept started in Ireland and Irish coffees were invented in Ireland at Shannon, Foynes and so on. Likewise, half of the aeroplanes in the world that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We have not historically had the population numbers or density to have a vast rail system. We know what happened in the 1950s. Everybody bought cars and did not want to use trains anymore and so on. In aviation, there are few countries in the world whose population has managed to go all over the globe and get involved. Some of the Ryan family were involved in Singapore at one stage....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Research Arena Event in April 2024: Discussion (18 Oct 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It is also a great coup for Ireland to have the presidency and to have our Minister and Minister of State as president and vice president of the TRA and so on. Another of our members has joined us so I am going to bring in Deputy O'Rourke.

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