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Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: We will adjudicate on that next year. However, I am surprised that the Minister would say that PULSE is regularly enhanced and upgraded as though this always happened. Many of the big headline issues over problems with PULSE have been well flagged and were a consequence of PULSE not being regularly enhanced and upgraded and the need to specifically do that. I am a little surprised by that....

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: We know that two thirds of all victims of sexual crime are children. This is an enormous problem for society. The 2012 Garda Inspectorate report recommended the establishment of these agencies. I note that money was reallocated from the capital budget to ICT in these Supplementary Estimates and in that context, there was an underspend of €6 million in the capital building programme...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: That would be great. Does the Minister have the figure allocated for that?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: Could the Minister get it for us?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: It is great to hear that but it would be great if we could get the figure for that.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: That would be excellent.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: Great. The Supplementary Estimates before us contain an extra €4 million for Templemore, which is to be welcomed. Was any of that extra money spent in the past year on child protection training? Do we have a figure on that or can we get one?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: No, the question related to Templemore. I asked whether any of that €4 million was spent on child protection training in Templemore. If the Minister does not have that information to hand, we can get it later. I am not blaming him but I would like an answer.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: I raise it in the context of how this committee was incredibly impressed by the report and testimony given to us by Dr. Geoffrey Shannon. We are all deeply concerned about the welfare of children in this State. We need to see a response when we commission these reports. If the Minister could get if for us, that would be great. I do not expect him to have it now but I would like to get it.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: I am sorry, Minister, but-----

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: No one is asking the Minister to do that. We all know what Templemore is: it is a training facility. One would imagine that everything that goes on in it is training.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: The budget has been presented to us and this is an extra €4 million. I was inquiring how much of that additional training budget went to child protection services.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: It may be related to one or two guidance counsellors, to specialist testimony being introduced or to an extra module. It may be that simple. I believe the committee would benefit from that information.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: Good.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: Good. I have two other issues on the budget. There is an expected underspend of €4.27 million in the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service, INIS, subhead. I find this worrying. Last year we talked about an underspend in INIS and last year the Minister told us:The underspend in INIS relates to staff recruitment. Having regard to the ongoing programme of recruitment for INIS,...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: I am concerned, although I will just flag it for now. The Minister said it is as a result of increased mobility and that recruitment is a problem across the Department, across the service and across the economy. That is not the full picture. It is a specific and acute problem in this area, as has been highlighted in successive budgets. The Minister told us last year that recruitment would...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: Therefore, that is under way in the Dublin area now. The money has been expended on that facility.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: It is in the process. It has not been relocated elsewhere.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: The moneys assigned to it are being spent on it.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2018
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Supplementary)
Vote 24 - Department of Justice and Equality (Supplementary)
(29 Nov 2018)

Clare Daly: I am going for €39.7 million. I am just trying to lighten the atmosphere here. I hate stony silences.

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