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- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: I will make a final comment. I understand we only have an hour and it is almost impossible to get to the bottom of this in five minutes. There are so many questions to ask.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: They will but I have a final point. The difficulty is this. Mr. O'Brien comes before us as the Accounting Officer. Mr. O'Brien's statement that he did not have sight of the draft does not cut it for me because his organisation did. The process here is that the report was commissioned by the HSE. It was at the behest of Mr. Tony O'Brien, as he said. The terms of reference were set by the...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: If there was correspondence or communication between Deloitte and the HSE, what staff members were engaging in it, and at what level? There was engagement between the HSE and the author of the report. While it is up to Deloitte to give us a copy of the draft, the HSE could provide us with copies of emails and correspondence that went over and back so we could then determine ourselves...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Can I ask a supplementary question?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Yes.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: I will ask a number of quick questions because we are under time pressure. My first point is more for the Chairman, after which I will get to Mr. O'Brien. It is unacceptable for an Accounting Officer who appears before the Committee of Public Accounts, having been invited specifically to respond to queries and concerns raised by us and others regarding an earlier draft of a report, to say...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Was Ms Colley one of those in the organisation who had sight of the drafts?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Not all. Mr. O'Brien did not.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Was Ms Colley one of the HSE representatives who engaged with Deloitte and had sight of the drafts that are being referenced?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Can Ms Colley answer my question, seeing as how Mr. O'Brien is unable to? The whistleblowers and service providers are saying that the HSE insisted that table 3.3 be removed. Did Ms Colley or any of her colleagues in any correspondence or exchange with the author of the report insist or ask that the table be removed?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Mr. O'Brien stated that, consequent to the Deloitte report, "the Service Provider was not treated either unfairly or disproportionately when compared to other similarly funded organisations." He compared it to other similarly funded organisations. However, Deloitte did not examine the funding of other organisations. Mr. O'Brien has acknowledged that €600,000 had to be paid...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: I accept that, but I am not talking about the settlement. I am talking about the amount of money. An amount of €600,000 was retrospectively paid to this organisation. How many other organisations of that scale and providing similar services received a figure anywhere near €600,000?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Surely Mr. O'Brien would know as the Accounting Officer. With respect, surely he would have some idea. Is there even one?
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: Mr. O'Brien does not know at this point in time.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: So how can Mr. O'Brien-----
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: I am sorry. If Mr. O'Brien does not know the number today, how can he say that this provider was not treated unfairly or disproportionately compared with other similarly funded organisations? He has acknowledged that the HSE had to pay €600,000 retrospectively and he cannot give us one example of another organisation that received a similar back payment, yet he says that this...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: My final question is to the Chairman because I do no expect to receive a satisfactory response on this matter from Mr. O'Brien. The Deloitte report indicates there was a 6% cut rather than a 2% increase in the organisation's funding in 2010. When Mr. O'Brien and his colleagues were before this committee on previous occasions, they referred to a 2% cut. Misinformation was, therefore, given...
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: However, Mr. O'Brien has done so. My point is that he is categorical in saying, based on the information he has, that the service provider was not treated unfairly. Yet he is not able to give even one example of another organisation of a similar scale that received a retrospective back payment of a comparable amount. That is a problem.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: I understand that.
- Public Accounts Committee: Deloitte Report on Cost of Care in Grace Case (26 Oct 2017)
David Cullinane: It is reasonable for the witness to confer on a point of information.