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Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: No, that is the total amount and, therefore, the Supplementary Estimate is the difference between the two, which is €1.2 billion.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: It is €118 million.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: It is on page 19 of the document the Deputy got.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: Not far off the €118 million; a little less than €118 million. What the Deputy is looking for is the breakdown of the €697 million at the start of the year.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: Yes.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: Do you have the breakdown of the €697 million, Mr. O'Grady?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: Is that the recognition payment?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: The figure is €189 million.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: Approximately 189,000 or 190,000 people. Some people will get less so the total number who will receive some amount will be higher than that.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: I will get the Deputy an exact estimate.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: What point?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: Deputy, when it comes to the recognition payment, the HSE at the moment is asking private nursing homes and private providers, and some of the section 39s, to come back to them with a self-assessment.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: No, you have not been told that for months.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: Yes. As the Deputy will be aware now, the nursing homes, the section 39s, are now getting paid so they have the self-assessment. They are returning them. The money is transferring now, and more and more nursing homes are getting those payments.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: The estimated money is €189 million, which at €1,000 a person would be 189,000 people.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: The point that I am making is that there are some people who are getting less than €1,000 so, on average, it will be somewhat above 190,000 people.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: That depends, to some extent, on how many of the nursing homes and the section 39s return the self-assessment. The Deputy and many colleagues have made the point - and it is something that I was acutely aware of myself - that the proposed approach, while it worked for HSE employees, was not working for section 39s and nursing homes and there was also a delay in paying firefighters and the...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: As many as possible. When the HSE gets the self-assessments back it turns them around very quickly. We do not know how many of these organisations will have returned their assessments. The advice that I have from the HSE is that for those that are returning them the moneys are being paid out very quickly.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: Does Mr. O'Grady have that information to hand?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2022
Vote 38 - Health (Supplementary) (30 Nov 2022)

Stephen Donnelly: So the advice is, it is a function obviously of claims coming through but that we do not have line of sight of the individual claims.