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Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: The ETB contacted the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am trying to get the sequence. I inferred from his remark that he referred the matter to the Department, but that was afterwards. Mr. Ó Foghlú or whoever else in the Department was involved might give us the sequence of how this commenced.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: No. 3 in the terms of reference states that the investigation may encompass matters prior to 2015, so it could have an impact on the statements before us today for 2013 and 2014. This investigation can examine 2013.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: There may be concerns about the 2014 accounts, which have been signed off already, as a result of this investigation. Mr. Ó Foghlú may have provided for that in the terms of reference.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is Mr. Ruttle happy that the investigation is proceeding?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Cullinane.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: The European Anti-Fraud office was as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: When was this?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is that in writing?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Was it all verbal?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is a personal observation of one Deputy-----

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----not the view of the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is not the view of the committee but a personal opinion. Will our guests tell us about the procurement process and how Dr. Thorn came to be appointed.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Loftus lean forward?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: The inquiry is into the board, not Dr. Thorn.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We could go into private session.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will we go into private session?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I think the legal adviser in the Oireachtas-----

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: They are here, so-----

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will go back into public session.

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