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Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: There may be concerns about the 2014 accounts, which have been signed off already, as a result of this investigation. Mr. Ó Foghlú may have provided for that in the terms of reference.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is Mr. Ruttle happy that the investigation is proceeding?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I call Deputy Cullinane.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: The European Anti-Fraud office was as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: When was this?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is that in writing?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Was it all verbal?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is a personal observation of one Deputy-----

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----not the view of the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: It is not the view of the committee but a personal opinion. Will our guests tell us about the procurement process and how Dr. Thorn came to be appointed.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will Mr. Loftus lean forward?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: The inquiry is into the board, not Dr. Thorn.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We could go into private session.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Will we go into private session?

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I think the legal adviser in the Oireachtas-----

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: They are here, so-----

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will go back into public session.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Deputy Connolly is proposing we continue to put questions and the answers we receive will be the answers we receive. That is what Deputy-----

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will ask the views of the members. Do we want a brief discussion among ourselves for a few moments in private session as to how we proceed? What do members think? I am only asking members.

Public Accounts Committee: Tipperary Education and Training Board and Kildare and Wicklow Education and Training Board: Financial Statements (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: It has been suggested by a member that we get some legal advice, which is available to us now if we go into private session. We will do that briefly. When we go into private session, we have to clear the room for ourselves to have our own private discussion. I ask the witnesses to be on hand for the end of the private session.

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