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Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: I have listened to Mr. McEnery now for 30 seconds and he still has not answered the question. Can I take it from his response that he did not give advice?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: You are not answering the question again.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Listen, when I ask a straight question-----

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: -----I deserve a response. Either Mr. McEnery gave advice or he did not. If he says he did not give advice, he should say it. If he did, he should say it. It is one or the other; it cannot be in the middle. He either gave advice or he did not. He should please answer the question as put to him.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: He is not. He is bluffing, with respect. I am asking him to answer the question as to whether he gave advice or not. It is a very straight question. It is very obvious to anybody in a meeting. If one gives advice to an organisation, one gives advice. If one does not, one does not. Either he gave advice or he did not.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: He is not going to answer the question. I will come back to that in one second.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: He is not answering the question, with respect. He is answering it in a way he wants to answer it but he is not actually answering the question that is being put. Let me go back to the point the Chairman made, on Mr. McEnery’s very clear and precise understanding of what happened at the meeting and his account of it. It happened two years ago.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. McEnery is a very busy person because he wears multiple hats. He was here in the past as an executive member, a board member, of NAMA.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Is Mr. McEnery still a non-executive member?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: He is also chairman of HIQA.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: He is a partner in the company BDO. Therefore, he wears multiple hats. He goes to many meetings. I would imagine his life is full of meetings-----

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: -----and events. He mentioned seminars and all sorts of different events. It would be amazing if he had such a forensic understanding of everything that happened at every meeting. Does he have any contemporaneous notes of the meeting that took place two years ago?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: I have that. He said he has no contemporaneous notes, yet, as the Chairman has pointed out, he has a very clear, precise understanding of what happened. Can I put it to him his very clear and precise understanding is based on the notes of the meeting that he now disputes, or that he is essentially reacting to those notes?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: It is amazing that Mr. McEnery's opening statement from a meeting that took place two years ago is so clear and so precise given that there are no contemporaneous notes whatsoever. The statement goes into very clear detail of exactly what was said and Mr. McEnery's role, which are actually contradicted in the media reports. I will proceed to them now, and perhaps we will tease some of this...

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The word "boycott" was used at the meeting. Mr. McEnery is the chairman of HIQA and he does not see any difficulty with that. In fact, he stayed at the meeting. I am referring to the reports on the meeting. It astounds me that Mr. McEnery would stay at the meeting when the possibility of a boycott was put on the table.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The media reports, of 8 October and 18 October, state Mr. McEnery made a contribution in which he talked about agreeing a cost of care, equal treatment of the same and similar nursing homes and that there was immediate intervention, following his contribution, from legal advisers, who said there was a very serious danger of discussing anti-competitive behaviour. Therefore, they were directly...

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The media reports also say that Mr. McEnery said at the meeting that the National Treatment Purchase Fund, when threatened, can back down. Did he say that?

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: That is the issue to which Mr. McEnery takes exception then.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The media reports say that Mr. McEnery was talking about an agreed cost of care and uniformity in respect of the price that would be paid to the individual nursing homes. He does not dispute that part of it.

Public Accounts Committee: HIQA: Governance and Management of Conflict of Interest Issues (19 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: I have to stop Mr. McEnery there because that is not what the media reports say was said at the meeting. Unfortunately, we do not have time to go into it all and we have to wait until we get legal opinion as to whether we can actually discuss a note which clearly contradicts almost everything that was in Mr. McEnery's opening statement, but we will just park that for one second. Is Mr....