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Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Does Mr. McCarthy accept that it is not as clear when one is reading it?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Of the 19 that are a combination of random and targeted, how many were random? Most of them were targeted.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Why were they targeted?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Did the witness carry out any work or have any oversight over the internal audit of Console?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The witness will remember that there were more than 60 findings. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The findings were all classed as having systemic difficulties. A quote from the report stated that the findings had national implications for the HSE.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Would the witness describe those findings as failures?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Within which organisations?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Were there any failures of oversight and enforcement?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The internal audit report, and I will stick with this organisation for the moment before turning to others, stated that there were 60 very serious findings, all of which showed systemic problems and which were of the highest priority. The report said that this had significant national implications for the HSE. If the internal audit report mentioned significant national implications, which...

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: In terms of process from the HSE side and in terms of enforcement, given the gravity of the issues in this organisation - there are 19 more and we will go through those in a moment - it did point to failures in oversight and enforcement of compliance. Would that be a fair assessment?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: I will get to the improvements in a moment, but for now we are talking about the reports in front of us.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Improvements will happen in the future.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The witness looks back into previous processes.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The Comptroller and Auditor General looks back as well. The purpose of an audit is to carry out a look back. It is not to look to the future and consider what can be improved. While it can make recommendations, that is a matter for the executive and for those in policy. The witness examines failures. Does he acknowledge that, notwithstanding the failures in the organisations, which are...

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. O'Brien was here as a witness when we discussed the Console issue and the internal audit report. One of the exchanges between Mr. O'Brien and me concerned the role of the HSE and whether there were failings. I put the question to him whether there were any failings on the HSE side and he said there were none. I have the transcript here. He said:[I]t is a different thing. We are...

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The point that I made to Mr. Flynn and the context I gave was the Console report because it was so profound. Every one of the findings had a high priority. The report said that the totality of the findings had national implications for the HSE. He was very clear that it points to failings of compliance and enforcement. Internal audit is entitled to have a different opinion from the...

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: The witness can answer both if he would like.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: I am not for a moment suggesting that the HSE is not taking this seriously or that as an organisation it has not addressed the issues raised in a serious way. I am simply trying to establish if the HSE, at a corporate level, accepts that there were potential failings in terms of compliance and enforcement. I am not entirely satisfied with the witness's response, but I am entitled to draw a...

Public Accounts Committee: Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies (26 Oct 2017)

David Cullinane: No. The second issue relates to learnings, which are very important. Whether the mistakes are of the funded organisations or the HSE, mistakes must be learned from. In terms of lessons learned, what changes were made in practices, policies and procedures? That is what I want to establish. There is a table on the screen which shows the 19 audited reports which framed the basis of the...