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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: This is the process.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will note the comment and proceed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will note the comment. The comment applies as much to him as it does to us. He might say something that could compromise the issue. We have to be cautious of everything. ETB is continuing as normal. Part of its work is to report to the Committee of Public Accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: There is no suggestion.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will put one thing on the record. Tony O'Brien, the head of the HSE, said information uncovered by the Committee of Public Accounts on section 38 and section 39 agreements which came here assisted him in his work in bringing them into line. It is information that might not have come to him otherwise. There can be a plus here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will. We will carry on. I cannot force the witnesses to give a particular answer but we will ask the questions and we will take it from there. All of this and the investigation arose because of the issues highlighted by the C&AG during the conduct of his 2015 accounts. That was in the context of him providing accounts to ultimately report to us. This issue has come to light...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We should write to IDA Ireland. The agency must have some mechanism not only for one year but for the past five years of job announcements. The agency should be able to look back one year later to see the position. Normally, IDA Ireland announces jobs, for example, 300 jobs for the coming four years. Whether they materialise is another matter. Sometimes more materialise and sometimes...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I suggest that during the next week we might discuss with the secretariat what kind of letter we can put together from the committee to capture the point you are making. We will take it further. Correspondence number 882 from IDA Ireland states that ConnectIreland, a former contractor to IDA Ireland, is at present involved in a legal dispute with IDA Ireland relating to matters arising...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I see that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will ask for a breakdown. That is agreed. It seems a high figure.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is agreed. We will note and publish the correspondence. Next is number 889B. This is correspondence dated 16 November from Graham Love, chief executive, Higher Education Authority, enclosing a copy of the independent review of certain matters and allegations relating to the University of Limerick. The review makes 36 findings and ten recommendations. The HEA has undertaken to keep...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the HEA, thank the authority and acknowledge the review. In view of the fact that Dr. Thorn is starting out on another review, it is a valid point to make at this stage. He will probably not re-write the report at this stage.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: You are quite right, Deputy. It simply goes into the detail and a reader would have to read from page 1 to 35 to get the full picture.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is a valid point on the format of the report.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am told we will have something circulated. It must have arrived yesterday. It will be circulated for the next meeting. Next is number 890. This is correspondence received from Fred McBride, chief executive, Tusla, providing substantial follow-up information relating to a large number of queries on Tusla. There is useful information in the correspondence.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: Yes we will hold over the topic. Next items are numbered 901, 902 and 908. These three items of correspondence are from Barry O'Connor, president, Cork Institute of Technology. The correspondence covers several items and the requested KPMG report. I note this correspondence and suggest we hold it over. A report has been circulated to us. There is a lot in this but we have not looked...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We need to come back to it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: It might take a separate meeting from the usual Thursday meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will ask the secretariat to come back with proposals for that for the next meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Nov 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is fine. Category C relates to correspondence from private individuals and other correspondence. Correspondence number 878 is dated 23 October from an anonymous source. It raises questions about Garda-related bodies, including the Garda Benevolent Trust Fund and the Garda Holidays and Travel Club. I propose that we forward the correspondence to An Garda Síochána for a...

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