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Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Does the Minister wish to come back in now or wait until we have some other contributions?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: On the issue of conscientious objection, the Minister quoted from the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Act 2013. Will it be repealed?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Is the wording used anywhere else? If that Act is repealed, are there other areas where the wording is the same?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: The point I am making is if that Bill is repealed, the wording is also repealed.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: If the 2013 Act is to be repealed, is it included in any other legislation?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: In other words, could one change the wording because this is a new Bill?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: The Bill states, "make such arrangements". Does that include the provision of information?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I believe this is the point Deputy Donnelly or one of the other contributors made. It is a much stronger requirement to refer to the making of arrangements than providing information. I do not believe anybody with a conscientious objection wants to obstruct, impede or delay the provision of treatment for women. However, they object to having to actively participate in the making of...

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: That is the caveat. The provision in respect of making an arrangement is only invoked if the woman is unable to make the arrangements.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Is directing her towards the website sufficient to fulfil that requirement?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Will "making such arrangements" refer to what the Medical Council decides?

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Deputies are offering in the following order: Deputies Fitzpatrick, O'Reilly, Durkan, Paul Murphy, Bríd Smith, O'Connell and Coppinger.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I thank Deputy Fitzpatrick. Next is Deputy Louise O'Reilly.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I thank the Minister. I remind members that we are discussing amendments Nos. 147 to 163, inclusive. If a member has amendments within that grouping then please refer to the amendment when speaking. I believe that Deputy O'Reilly has an amendment in that group.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Our next three contributors are Deputies Tóibín, Nolan and Mattie McGrath.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I am obliged to offer the members a break because we have been here for the best part of three hours. I will be led by the members.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: I am obliged to offer the members a break and I am doing so. I get the impression that we should continue.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: The next two speakers are Deputies Nolan and Mattie McGrath.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Allow the Deputy to continue, please.

Select Committee on Health: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Committee Stage (Resumed) (8 Nov 2018)

Michael Harty: Continue please, Deputy.

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