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Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Before Mr. O'Driscoll gives me the bottom line, let me address a question to Mr. Leahy. Was Mr. Leahy in his position when Mr. O'Driscoll was examining the criteria?

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: I thank Mr. Leahy for that response. Who was Mr. Leahy's predecessor?

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Did Mr. O'Driscoll liaise with Assistant Commissioner Nolan?

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: May I clarify a point, I thought I had clarified this at the very start of my questions. There is no dispute whatsoever that there was a Government decision to reopen six Garda stations. That is a fact. There is also no dispute that the Minister for Justice and Equality set up criteria that were then given to the former Commissioner. That is a fact. We also know that it was up to the...

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: I do not want to be unfair to Mr. Leahy. So perhaps Mr. Leahy can clarify for me what he said earlier. My question for Mr. Leahy is that from an operational perspective, from a Garda resource perspective and from a Garda priority perspective, would his preference at this point in time be to reopen Stepaside Garda station?

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: That is based on the criteria, but what if those criteria were not there?

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: That tells me there is a difficulty with the criteria.

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Leahy cannot comment on that.

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: I will not put that question to Mr. Barrett and I will finish by saying the following to the Chairman. I asked at the start of this process a number of months ago when we first started to ask questions about this that we would examine process. In examining process, what we have found is that it is an entitlement of the Minister to set criteria for the Commissioner. We have now learned that...

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: I will express it publicly, not here.

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Ó Cualáin has already told me a few moments ago he has given the order. He has made the decision to reopen Stepaside. Does that mean that Mr. O'Driscoll's recommendation, that caveat about a new station that he gave, has been disregarded?

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Why?

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Did Mr. O'Driscoll not just say that it would be wise not to proceed with reopening Stepaside until the acting Commissioner has given full consideration to the work of that group? Is that what Mr. O'Driscoll said?

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Hang on a second. I respectfully believe the witnesses are answering the questions, to be fair to them.

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Here is the point.

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: No, but this is-----

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: I have already established-----

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: I have already-----

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: But it is not fair to say this is just about Government policy when-----

Public Accounts Committee: Reopening of Garda Stations: Discussion (23 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: -----Mr. Ó Cualáin's predecessor-----

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