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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Can we bring RTÉ before the Committee of Public Accounts?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Could I just add-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Absolutely. When an Accounting Officer appears before the Committee of Public Accounts to account for gross expenditure, in the normal run of things, we would have a line-by-line breakdown of how that money is spent. There is a gap here where we do not have €179 million of the overall €439 million. Mr. Griffin cannot tell us whether a service level agreement is in place. In...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Notwithstanding all that, I assume Mr. Griffin understands that our job is democratic accountability. He is the Accounting Officer to the Committee of Public Accounts. Rather than coming to the Committee of Public Accounts and asking us to Google information and to look back at previous reports, which is what I took from his response, he has a responsibility to account-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: I refer to the response regarding RTÉ's published accounts. Mr. Griffin has a responsibility to-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Griffin has a responsibility to account for the €179 million-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: -----that is given from his Department. He signed a cheque to RTÉ. I do not believe that he is in a position today to adequately address that spend. That is my view. Maybe Mr. Griffin can give us a line item and more detail on how that money is spent. Maybe he does have that information. Maybe I am wrong and he might be able to break down for us how that €179 million is spent.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Following up is not good enough.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Griffin is not here to follow up.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: What does follow up mean?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Why would that information not be at his fingertips now? He is coming into the Committee of Public Accounts to account for €179 million and is telling me that I have to wait until he is gone before I have that breakdown, which puts me at a disadvantage because I cannot then scrutinise how that money is spent. Mr. Griffin is not equipped to answer my questions today on that spend,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: I have many other issues to address.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: I just had a quick look at the environment fund. I thank the secretariat for supplying us with that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: It is for 2015. We do not have the 2016 one. I have a quick question on one element. In 2014, there was €100,048 for nuclear safety. There was no provision in 2015. What was that spent on? It is on page 6.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Griffin might send us a note on that. I am assuming, then, that there was no money spent in 2016 on nuclear safety. That was a one-off report. If there was money spent in 2016, Mr. Griffin might give us a note on that as well. I am assuming from what Mr. Griffin is saying that it was a one-off spend on a report on the potential of a leak, accident or something at Sellafield.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Okay. I have a number of issues. I will be as quick as I can. The first is in respect of Eircode, which is under Mr. Griffin's Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: How much was spent on Eircode? How much did it cost the taxpayer?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: What is the expected cost? Is it a ten-year contract?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: What is the expected cost?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Have we got value for money at €38 million? Is the Eircode system working to the satisfaction of the Department?

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