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Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Is the amendment agreed to?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: How stands the amendment?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Before we move to amendment No. 12, I remind members of the long-standing parliamentary practice and ruling of the Chair that they should not comment on, criticise or make charges against any individual, organisation or entity.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendment No. 5 in the name of Deputy Troy has been ruled out of order as it involves a potential charge on revenue.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendment No. 6 in the name of Deputy Ó Caoláin has been ruled out of order as it involves a potential charge on revenue.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: No.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: No, she cannot respond. She will not be able to comment and one cannot move the amendments out of order. All I can tell the Deputy is that the information, that he alluded to in his remarks, imposes an allocation of resources for the purpose of involving a potential charge on the Exchequer and, therefore, the amendment has been ruled out of order. We will not have any discussion on the matter.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank the Deputy.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendments Nos. 7 and 8 are in the name of the Minister and may be discussed together by agreement.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendment No. 9, in the name of Deputy Troy, has been ruled out of order as it involves a potential charge on revenue.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendment No. 10 has been tabled by Deputies Ó Caoláin and Troy and I ask Deputy Ó Caoláin to move the amendment.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendment No. 3 in the name of Deputy Robert Troy has been ruled out of order as it involves a potential charge on the Exchequer.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Can we stick to the Bill, please?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I must interrupt the Deputy. We are not going to have another Second Stage debate.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sorry, Deputy, but in the interests of balance and fairness, we should not make remarks about people who are not here

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Chair is fair and balanced, as the Deputy knows. I want to protect people who are not here, as well as those who are present. We are here to discuss the Bill, not the issue the Deputy has raised.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sorry, Deputy, but I must interject again. I am disappointed that we are starting on an adversarial footing. This meeting is not about the person to whom the Deputy refers but about a Bill.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is straying beyond the scope of the meeting.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is now straying.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (22 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Deputy. Before calling Deputy Robert Troy, I remind all members that we are dealing with Committee Stage of the Child and Family Agency Bill. We will deal with the Bill amendment by amendment and not with generalities. We are here to deal with specific amendments to the Bill and I hope we can stick to them. I call on Deputy Robert Troy to make his opening remarks, as all...

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