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Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendments Nos. 21 to 23, inclusive, are related and will be discussed together.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I propose that we now suspend the sitting to allow Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin to speak on Topical Issues in the Dáil.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I have received apologies by Deputy Eamonn Maloney. Deputy Robert Dowds is substituting for him today. I remind members not to name officials or organisations that are not present and to confine their remarks to the Bill.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendments Nos. 17 to 21, inclusive, are being discussed together. I realise Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin has a Topical Issue to raise in the Dáil. I propose, therefore, we suspend the sitting for the period of that debate and then reconvene. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: That is fine. The Deputy will be able to discuss it in the Dáil.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: That is a mistake.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank all the witnesses for their presence this morning and for the substantial body of work they presented to us in written form. We have had a positive meeting this morning. The good news for members is that there will be no meeting next week on account of our mid-term break. This committee will meet again on Tuesday, 5 November at 5 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: In the absence of the clerk, who is ill, I must defer the answer to that question until the next meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Will it be possible to do so in the future?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I asked the Minister and the officials from the HSE a question about the unique patient identifier at last week's meeting of the committee. Is Dr. Ryan happy that it might progress?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Mr. O'Dwyer stated in his presentation that 30% of funding for his organisation comes from volunteers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Mr. Dwyer and Dr. Creedon referenced the cost of the hospice bed. Dr. Creedon referred to the model in Canada, Argentina and Catalonia. Is there any willingness in the HSE, which is the overarching body, to engage in a meaningful way to make this a reality? From a purely personal point of view, it is probably much better for people to be in Marymount Hospice or somewhere else. A computer...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Our final speaker is Professor Doiminic Ó Brannagáin, a consultant in palliative medicine.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I apologise as Senator MacSharry is manning the benches in the Seanad and Deputy Ó Caoláin has to attend another committee meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Our next speaker is Ms Paddie Blaney, director of the All-Ireland Institute of Hospice and Palliative Care. You are very welcome.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Dr. Creedon. I now call on Dr. Margaret Clifford, who is the chairperson of the Irish Association for Palliative Care.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Dr. Clifford. I now welcome Dr. Karen Ryan, a consultant in palliative medicine in St. Francis Hospice and the Mater Hospital.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Mr. O'Dwyer. I welcome Dr. Brian Creedon, chairman of the Irish Palliative Medicine Consultants Association and invite him to make his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I most sincerely thank our four witnesses for their presentations and the substantive body of work they have submitted as part of their presentation. They are available on the Oireachtas website and will be part of our final report. We have made a very positive start to our series of hearings.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (24 Oct 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We resume for our second segment of hearings on end-of-life care. I remind people to turn off their mobile phones off as the sound made by them interferes with the broadcasting of the proceedings and is unfair to staff who have to listen to buzzing in their ears. I thank our witnesses for attending and apologise for the delay to this part of the meeting. We were delayed by a number of...

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