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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: In relation to Tusla, what is the monetary value of the non-compliance in procurement?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: That is quite a sum given its level of funding.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: Given our previous conversation, the financial management in the HSE would not be great. When will Tusla be before the committee again? I am inundated with issues relating to Tusla.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: It was months ago. This happened since, and much of it is due to -----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: On that basis, I will look at it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: On the NTA, again, I concur with Deputy Catherine Murphy. That seems to be outrageous. We need further detail. What is the €102 million with the National Oil Reserves Agency, NORA? It is a fund. Is it the value of what it does?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: That is money earned; it is not profit.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: It is turnover. That is grand. On the Teagasc compensation payments, I am wondering how that comes about. Is there not separate insurance? Does that come out of the -----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: What was the level of compensation?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: What was the level of non-compliance with procurement for the Food Safety Authority?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: No problem.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: I do not know any elected representative who has not had an issue with the RTB. I came across instances where it was recognising landlords by their email address. Typically, if an agent was using one email, all the properties were linked to that email address. I had a situation where there were two completely separate individuals but one had been making the applications and that email...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: It is very difficult.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: I am not sure that even still the RTB’s system operates in the way that it should.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: The agent for the landlord did go online with the same email address and the RTB combined properties from the agent’s email address and attributed them to the wrong person because of the email address. It was very challenging. Since then, the landlord has passed away. That is literally how it was remedied. One of the landlords passed away. It is a very difficult agency to deal with.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: Since we are in 2024, I would like to know, for the timeline to be February 2025, if we have a more recent update, because I am sure it has been extended again. We can see from the history that, month on month, the report extended it by a month. That would mean we are at July 2025 by now.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: I may be wrong but I believe point b) has regard to how the Department or migration officials look at the application where nothing is put forward by the applicant deeming a country safe or otherwise. As a result, there would be an automatic rejection.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: That is because it is on the list. However, where the applicant puts something forward that says otherwise, it is considered differently. It is deemed to be a safe country where there is no evidence to the contrary.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: He or she is then given the same process as anybody else seeking asylum on those grounds.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (19 Sep 2024)

Verona Murphy: I am not sure what the Cathaoirleach is saying. Is he saying that point b) should not be there on the basis that a country is either a safe country or it is not?

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