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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Are additional charges placed on families? How does the NTPF decide on the price of a nursing home? Are they all the same price?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: That is okay. That finishes my questions on the fair deal scheme. I want to go back to consultants. I have heard that some consultants charge cash prices when people go into their clinics. Why would that happen? With Revenue and everything else, how can a consultant be allowed to ask for cash for appointments?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Okay. It does not happen in Beaumont Hospital. Can the witnesses verify that? Have they ever put out a questionnaire to their consultants about whether that happens? Do they know if it happens in consultants' private clinics?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: I have one more question for Beaumont Hospital. I hear that the scanners in Beaumont Hospital quite often break down and it has to outsource all its scans to Allianz Medical in Smithfield. Why would that happen? Why are scanners not working in our hospitals under the HSE such that it has to outsource to a private body? How long has that been ongoing?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: If Beaumont Hospital knows that it will be 11% up, would it not purchase another scanner instead of outsourcing to a private body?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Could the witnesses furnish me with information on how many scans Beaumont Hospital is outsourcing to private clinics?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: The hospital still does not have the equipment. It has the money but it never-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: So the hospital is replacing the equipment but is still outsourcing-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Why is Beaumont Hospital still outsourcing?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Has that ever been checked in Beaumont Hospital?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Could I get, in tabular form, how much Beaumont Hospital is outsourcing and how much that is costing the taxpayer? I thank the witnesses.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: I thank the witnesses for answering all the questions so far. I want to go back to the start. After I listened to all of the questions and answers, I am kind of at a standstill to understand when the NTPF was formed and what the purpose was in forming it. Why were not enough consultants put into the hospitals in the first place to ensure that patients got adequate care? The NTPF is an...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Yes, when was the inception of the NTPF?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: What was the reason for that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: I am sorry; how much?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: The Government spent €30 million to ensure that-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Instead of putting additional consultants in the hospital to create additional access, it created an entity. I do not really get it.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Does Ms Bennett recall which Government it was?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Cathy Bennett: The NTPF does not provide beds.

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