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Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: This is very relevant. From Ursula von der Leyen, the head of the European Commission: "Israel has the right to defend itself" in response to this action. From Mr. Emmanuel Macron: "Israel's right to defend itself". This is around the interpretation of international law, and that is why it is extremely relevant. The UN Charter refers to "self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a...

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: It is extremely relevant and this is inappropriate heckling.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Excuse me, that is not true. I would like to continue uninterrupted and have my time at the end as well.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I thank the Cathaoirleach. Why it is relevant is that this is around the interpretation of international law. As the witnesses have outlined, this is around how we will be interpreting the UN Charter. We have been told constantly there will be references to how the UN Charter is being interpreted. However, we are seeing at the same time a lot of language about the need to align with and...

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: On my second question, I am not going to focus on the question of-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Is war an option? It sounds to me that is not the language the witness used around "responsibility to protect". That is not the language that is in this Bill. The language that is in the Bill is "strengthening international security". Do the witnesses believe that opens up a space where war is an option, and where actions beyond the principles of protection are applied, particularly in...

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: My time is limited.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: It says "strengthening international security" versus policing.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Our current legislation refers to a police function. Now it will say "strengthening international security".

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: It was around the language in the Bill specifically.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: With respect because I was so interrupted-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I wish to have the opportunity to answer Dr. Burke on the purposes, not who gives the mandate. The purposes in this Bill are very different to previous purposes, in that "strengthening international security" is used rather than "the performance of duties of a police character".

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I would just really like to have that answered.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: I know.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Or the General Assembly, for accuracy.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Which is sufficient for us to-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Just for accuracy, that allows us-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Apologies but-----

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: It can allow action.

Committee on Defence and National Security: General Scheme of the Defence (Amendment) Bill 2025 : Discussion (Resumed) (19 Jun 2025)

Alice-Mary Higgins: Apologies, I will stand back but I just wanted-----

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