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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Is there a legal basis for that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: There have been concerns expressed about staff qualifications. Within Tusla itself, there are documented issues of unqualified staff handling serious cases. To give an example, the HIQA inspection in Dublin South-Central in 2025 reported that social care staff were inappropriately allocated to complex child protection cases. Social care staff who spoke to inspectors expressed significant...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: What is the deficit? What is the shortage of qualified social workers at the moment?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Are those social workers?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Going back to the initial assessments, they can only be carried out by a social worker. Do we know how many children are still waiting for a social worker to be allocated for that initial assessment to be carried out?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Can I also get figures on how long they are waiting?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: I wish to return to the issue of the unaccompanied minors because it is an area of deep concern. Ms Duggan gave a number of figures. She can correct me if I am wrong. The current figure is 528.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: What is the expected cost this year for providing accommodation?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: I do not expect the witnesses to have these figures, but can we get information going back to the commencement of the Ukrainian scheme?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: The figures for international protection have probably gone up as well. Ms Duggan made reference to children going missing. She can again correct me if I am wrong. Currently, there are 28. Is that the figure that have gone missing this year?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: That is mainstream. What about Ukraine and IPAS?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Ms Duggan made reference to an average age earlier. What is the youngest age of someone who is currently missing in that cohort?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: If Ms Duggan could, that would be useful. I am conscious that HIQA did a piece of work earlier in the year. I do not want to summarise what it is was saying, but it was critical of the actions taken by Tusla in situations such as this where children who have presented as unaccompanied minors have gone missing. Will Ms Duggan comment on that HIQA work?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: One of the findings in the HIQA report was that there was no communication between Tusla-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: -----and the Garda, but also outside agencies, such as in the UK or over the Border in the North.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: HIQA officials looked at eight areas. Tusla failed in seven of those eight areas. Does Ms Duggan estimate that Tusla is compliant or are there processes in place now?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: It is a deeply concerning area. There was a response to Deputy McAuliffe about unaccompanied minors coming through airports and ports. There is an obligation on the transport provider, whether it is the airlines or others, and engagement between Tusla, the Department of justice and the airlines. Does Tusla have any role in that with the airport authority or is that-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: I have no further questions.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: Not to prolong the conversation, but I will raise the fear that children have been trafficked. The HIQA report found that safety planning was not routinely completed when a trafficking risk was identified for a child in eight cases where there were concerns about trafficking and exploitation. In one case where a child said they felt unsafe, no safety plans were in place to manage the risks....

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: Tusla - the Child and Family Agency (2 Oct 2025)

John Brady: I thank everyone within Tusla for the work they do. It is challenging for everybody. Whether they are social workers or care workers, everyone has the same core objective for some of the most vulnerable within our State. It is critical that the public can trust social services. We need that and there is a need to demonstrate it. Hopefully, today's hearing will go some of the way towards...

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