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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: The lead-in period for registration, when it is required, will be after 1 January 2026 when they exceed the threshold with regard to VAT. There is still some time. I assure the committee that this is the latest date upon which this change could be made.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: It is because of the concern I have regarding the operation of the flat-rate VAT system in the poultry sector.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: Yes, and they now have to register for VAT as normal businesses would. That message has been conveyed very clearly. In the engagement I have had, not just with representatives of the poultry sector but also with the many people who contacted me on both this matter and the statement I made on it earlier in the year, I made this clear. We have significant evidence of issues relating to the...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: I have had case studies presented to me by representatives, which I accept. I do not doubt the veracity of what Deputy Doherty represented a moment ago. I know this will have an effect. Over time, it will probably be an effect of cash flow, but upfront, it is an effect that I accept. I have outlined the argument and the background. While I accept there are issues that would be created in...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: I move amendment No. 66: In page 89, between lines 17 and 18, to insert the following: “Amendment of section 46 of, and Schedule 3 to, Principal Act (reduced rate for housing as part of a social policy) 67. (1) The Principal Act is amended, with effect as on and from 8 October 2025— (a) in section 46(1)— (i) in paragraph (a), by the insertion of...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank the Deputies for their questions. I will begin in the order in which they were put to me, but I am going to need clarification on one. In relation to Deputy Burke's question, that is the case, with regard to his comment on the land itself. In the scope of what we are implementing, the 13.5% will still apply. We are examining that matter. I need to consider whether we can we...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: On the Deputy’s first question, the answer is "Yes". I will come back to him on his second question before Report Stage.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: On the Deputy’s second point, my concern is that if we were to allow own-door access, it would be harder to target this measure, and that was the thinking behind that. He raised a fair point earlier in our debate. He made some important points regarding the design of subsidies. While he is against this, he made points I have sympathy and understanding with. Our view was that...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: They would need to be-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: If they are in a block and if they have own-door access, so in other words if there is one door just going into that apartment and there is no other access beyond going into that apartment, then they are included within it.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: Because they are in a block.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: Yes.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: If there is common access to upstairs.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: Yes, if the amendment goes through, then you would be opposing the amended section.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: Exactly.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: It is due to last until the end of 2030.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: Our estimate is that by the time we get to 2030 the cost at that point will be €390 million.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank the Deputy. I will deal with the questions that were put to me. Before I respond, I will check if Deputy Nash wants to come in. I am conscious that I have to step out at 4 p.m.-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: -----and I do not want to not respond to the Deputies on what is a significant element of the Finance Bill, given that Minister of State, Deputy Troy, would not have heard what the speakers said in the way that I have. In relation to the point regarding this measure taking effect from 8 October, the advice I have received is clear. VAT is a consumption tax that is placed on a product...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation, and Taoiseach: Finance Bill 2025: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Nov 2025)

Paschal Donohoe: No, I did not mean that in a pejorative way.

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