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Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I would be delighted if you went back to it. You have been manipulating gender very conveniently for years.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: It says, gender bending.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Lavish is the word.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I am surprised by the personalised approach taken by Senators Ward, Flynn and, to a lesser but somewhat existent extent, Sherlock to attacking our concerns.Those of us who have concerns about this Bill have set them out very carefully. The difference between Senator Ward and me is that I acknowledged the point of view that the other side had. I expressed, for example, why I could see the...

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I am just looking at him; I am speaking to the Acting Chair. He is a beauty to behold, no more than myself. I accept the argument but my point is simply this: on balance, it is dangerous to go tiering victims and it is best left to courts to make rulings in sentencing having regard to all of the circumstances in the case of an offence, including a hatred motivation. I should be allowed to...

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: I will simply reply by saying that I am responding to particular things that Senator Ward chose to say.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: If he chose to say them and it was in order, then it is in order for me to reply at this point. I will conclude by saying that everything that is being proposed here today leaves open the possibility that people will be protected against crimes based on hateful motivation. I will put it to the Senators again - we are here in this House as politicians - that if someone is attacked because...

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: They are real crimes.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: No, they are protected. Of course they are protected under criminal law.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: That is a misrepresentation. I want them all to be protected.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Not true. Has the Minister read my amendments?

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Has the Minister read my amendments?

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: She has not internalised them.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Check out amendment No. 100.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Not true.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: On a point of order-----

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: The Minister has said something that is untrue. I ask her, given that we are talking about the Government and its responsibilities regarding truthfulness, to take a pause and read amendment No. 100. I ask her to withdraw the assertion that there is nothing in my amendment and indeed those of others that would protect a transgender person.

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: And mine?

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: Has the Minister even read my amendment?

Seanad: Criminal Justice (Incitement to Violence or Hatred and Hate Offences) Bill 2022: Committee and Remaining Stages (16 Oct 2024)

Rónán Mullen: There is no heckling. We are asking for basic respect.

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