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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Can I first of all say that I stand over everything I said before we went into private session. It is my personal opinion. It is not the opinion of every member here, but I have given my opinion. Giving us huge volumes of information does not equate to proper public accountability. What Mr. Watt seems to miss is that we have not got the information which we need. Yes, we can welcome that...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Mr. Watt can answer it again because I have asked it. I would like a number please.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: There are ten which have not been published. How many have been carried out in the area of education?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: The Department has not carried out one.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Why not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: This is where we can understandably be frustrated. I accept what the Comptroller and Auditor General said when he gave the context. If I am reading this right, and I want to be fair to everybody, there was opposition from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform in the past to publishing the post-project reviews. We then had an analysis, review or examination by the International...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: When Mr. McCarthy was talking about the post-project value reviews, he also mentioned value for money assessments.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Had they been done for all of the projects in the Department of Education and Skills?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Has the Department published those?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Can they be made available to this committee?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: When will the ten or 11 post-project reviews that exist be published?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: What is the delay? Why not publish them today?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Mr. Watt is the Accounting Officer.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: I am trying to demonstrate patience and it is not always easy when we have witnesses before the Committee of Public Accounts. I will move on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: I will not apologise to anybody for doing my job and nor will I apologise to anybody if I feel that we are in any way being frustrated and not getting the information and answers that we need. I will stick to the issue of the code. Mr. Watt said in his opening statement that all projects over €20 million are required, under the public spending code, to be subject to a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Is that a legal requirement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: Is that legislative-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: So it does not have to happen.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: The code itself has not been put on a legislative basis.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

David Cullinane: That brings me on to the next point. I read the public spending code last night - all 147 pages of it - and it says on page 2 that "Nothing in the Public Spending Code should be taken as precluding Government or Ministers, under the delegated sanction arrangements set down by the Minister for Public Expenditure & Reform, from deciding to approve projects independent of the detailed...

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