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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: I wish to address some of the Minister's comments. The Minister indicated that he was confused at my opening comment on why we were at the committee discussing this matter. The Minister indicated it was his understanding that it was the view or wish of the Business Committee of the Dáil that this should be dealt with at the Joint Oireachtas committee and that the Minister was complying...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: It also mentions €1.4 billion for GLAS to the end of 2020. The Minister is selectively quoting himself now, is he?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: What was the date of that reply?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: It is very nice to find one answer where he says that because every other time he said something very different.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: The devil the Minister is talking to is his own Government.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: So, it is not additional money over and above that. It comes out as part of the rural development programme and that €4 billion envelope.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: The Minister refers to additional Exchequer funding of €100 million. It will not quite be €100 million because there was underspending.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: The sheep welfare scheme and the additional €25 million for ANC are funded from the Exchequer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: That was sold to farmers as additional funds and new money in the budget.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: While the Minister says the €100 million for the sheep welfare scheme and the €75 million for ANC are additional funds, it is clear from the Minister's presentation today that this €175 million is part of the rural development programme spend. The Minister says that when the RDP is all added up, there was a €104 million overspend which will now have to form part...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: I understand that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: We would not expect any less than every last penny.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: The line I am pursuing is that the €175 million for the sheep welfare scheme and ANC payment has been sold to farmers as additional funds but will actually be paid for by way of a transitional arrangement by being taken out of the next rural development programme period. That is how the Minister's presentation stacks up. It is crystal clear that it will be part of the transitional...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: I asked how much of GLAS would run post-2020 into 2021 and 2022.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: How does that break down over each year?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: That will form part of the transitional payment into the next rural development programme. That part of GLAS will be paid for out of the next RDP, not the current one.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: As part of his presentation today, the Minister outlined how he has taken €70 million from GLAS to pay for the Burren programme and the locally-led EIPs. GLAS is €70 million less as a result of paying for EIPs and the Burren programme out of the current rural development programme. There was no allocation for those in the original RDP. That is now coming off GLAS as part of...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: We very much dispute how much the Government ever said it would spend on GLAS. I have been holding the Minister to account for the promise to spend €1.4 billion on it. The Minister has been indicating that it is currently €160 million overspent and I am pointing out that the Minister's presentation today indicates that he took €70 million away from GLAS to fund the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: One final question on the beef data genomics programme and the fact that the projections as part of the rural development programme indicated that there would be 35,000 farmers in it at a cost of €300 million. We only have just over 24,000 which is two thirds of that. The Minister is saying that two thirds of the initial projected membership will cost €290 million, almost as...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Rural Development Programme: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (19 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: I make that observation because to achieve the initial projection of 35,000-----

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