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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: The Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden have made a calculation that it does not make sense for them to give additional funds to the CAP because they will not get them back. What are our calculations on that? We are a net contributor overall. If we were to make additional contributions to the European budget, how much would we get back? Would we get back as much as we put in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: Is that a requirement for each state under the current proposal, regardless of whether it wants it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: Mr. Gleeson earlier indicated that some countries have indicated they are willing to put an extra 0.1% of GNI into the budget rather than the 0.11% on which the Commission proposals are based.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: To clarify, the Commission's proposals were based on a figure of 1.1%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: Some 1.11%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: Mr. Gleeson has stated that three states only wish to give 1%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: If they do not change their position, the Commission's current proposal of a 4% cut in Pillar 1 and a 15% cut in Pillar 2 will have to be increased.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: Those three countries have not agreed to the current proposals of the Commission.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: It is not only that they are not agreeing to any further points.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: I have a couple of follow-up points. Regarding the objective under the Commission's proposal to redistribute some funding towards small and medium-sized farmers, will Mr. Gleeson flesh out the options and requirements? I am interested in hearing his perspective on the two ways in which funding under pillar 1 can be distributed - entitlement and average payment per hectare. What are the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: The system is based on entitlements at the moment. Were it to move to a flat rate payment per hectare under the Commission's proposal, what would be the options for assessing that flat rate payment? There are a couple of options related to agronomics in terms of land type in the proposal. Could Mr. Gleeson flesh out the range of options?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: On that matter, in what years was money being taken off those above the average? Was it front-loaded in the first three or four years? Are those being brought to the average having it done in a gradual way to the same amount each year? What way is it working?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: What is happening on the upper side? Is there a maximum amount that one can be over the average?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: There is no maximum in terms of the value of an entitlement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: People will be brought to the 60% of average payment in five equal steps. Is the money being taken off those on the other end in five equal steps as well?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: If there was a movement to a per hectare entitlement payment, is there a particular sector that, on balance, has a much higher entitlement than others? The witness mentioned some would get €700 per hectare. They would see the most impact from a move to a flat rate payment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: Deputy Martin Kenny referred to the old young farmers who have farmed for more than five years and are excluded. Is there potential for their inclusion or is it exactly as Mr. Gleeson has outlined?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: Does the current regulation state "newly established for the first time"?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: Many of these farmers will continue to farm as they are relatively young.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Common Agricultural Policy Negotiations: Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (26 Jun 2018)

Charlie McConalogue: This section of farmers have been hard done by. It is important that flexibility is shown and something is done for them.

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