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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: I had a note on it. It is to do with figures we got the last day to do with expenses and so on. I think the figure we got the last day came from the briefing we got and they do not correspond with the figures in Mr. Boland's letter. We have to examine it in more detail, and the way to do that is perhaps through the Comptroller and Auditor General.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: I will have to examine those because I have not got my note here.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We will get them and flag them for the members. No. 3A.2 is correspondence dated 16 February 2015 from Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General, Department of Education and Skills, re follow-up to our meeting on 22 January 2015.That is to be noted and published. No. 3A.3 is correspondence dated 18 February 2015 from Mr. Joe Hamill, Secretary General, Department of Arts, Heritage...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We can do that. We will write to the Department on that.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Was it in the last paragraph?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We can write to them and ask for clarification on that, saying what the Deputy has just said.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: That is agreed. No. 3A.4 is correspondence from NAMA in regard to the De Vere Hunt case. I want to put on record that I am not one bit phased by this correspondence. While it may be factual in terms of how it quotes what the members have said and the action that was taken, the fact of the matter is that this letter was sent to us on the day they had a meeting with this lady. It is clear...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: The clerk has taken a note of that and we will do it. No. 3A.5 relates to the Revenue Commissioners and HSBC. Deputy Mary Lou McDonald wants to comment.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We have an available slot on 12 March. Does that suit?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: The clerk will contact Revenue and we will try to set up a meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We have the information from Revenue and we are going to go through the figures with them. We will be asking about the overall take, how it happened and so on.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We will check that point with Revenue and what we do will depend on their reply.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We have different terms of reference. I would love to extend an invitation to someone from HSBC to attend and if they were willing to do so, I would love to hear what they had to say. Our remit, though, is to work directly with Revenue in this case. It might be worthwhile to write to HSBC to ask if they want to be present at the meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We will extend an invitation to them. I wish to go back to the HEA correspondence and wish to clarify what I was saying. Under the details for WIT, it states the institute has incurred direct costs of €152,000 and it gives a breakdown of the expenditure. It includes travel and subsistence of €5,900 and office and other expenses of €5,000. I am trying to relate that...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: No. 3B.4 is correspondence received from Ms Marie Hickey-Dwyer regarding a Health Service Executive matter which will be passed to the HSE for its comments. Correspondence dated Friday, 13 February 2015 from the HSE is a reply to an anonymous correspondence regarding cover up and corruption in the HSE. This is to be noted and published. Correspondence dated 2 February 2015 from Mr. Brian...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: What is the deficit?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We then have No. 4.2, No. 4.3 and No. 4.4. The Horse Racing Ireland annual report is No. 4.5. Any comments on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: These accounts are all to be noted. We have had our attention drawn to the two issues by the Comptroller and Auditor General. Last week, as part of the work programme, we went to Howth to see the situation out there. A number of members examined the properties and heard from local business people. It was quite a shocking experience to listen to the story of properties being vacant for...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Lest there be any doubt about this, we wish to find out where the leases have been stalled and whether it is within the Department or from a legal perspective, either in house or out of house, to determine each lease across Howth and in the other locations we are discussing. Does any member who was there wish to comment?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (26 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Our work programme is set out. Next week we will have the procurement issues we discussed previously in respect of school supplies and so forth. The members of the group that were in the Visitors Gallery will be present also. Will members indicate to the clerk to the committee whether they are available next Wednesday? It is our intention to travel to Northern Ireland. No. 6 is reports...

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