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Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Tell me about that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is when somebody has the courage to come forward and contact the regulator.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: It takes courage to come forward.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Absolutely.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Is there much effort and energy involved with trying to identify what are serious concerns and what might not be serious concerns?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I see.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: There is a system in place.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Would the regulator be able to focus on the foundations if it had more staff? Has it occurred to the witness that the foundations coming under the regulator's remit might be examined?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is of concern to me. As previous speakers indicated, we come across things by chance when somebody is courageous enough to make a complaint and so on. We stumbled on the issue with foundations when we looked at the accounts of third level institutions. We saw how foundations did not come under anybody's remit, really, but they would now come under the regulator's remit. I think of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That was €56 million in a foundation account that was not open for public scrutiny. Would that be of interest to the regulator?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: It is an area that needs to be examined proactively.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: With regard to the statutory powers, the regulator asks various organisations to give information but does not use those statutory powers in the first instance. How many times did it have to use statutory powers in 2018?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is because organisations did not co-operate.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Will Ms Martin put those 48 occasions in context? How should I interpret the figure of how many times the regulator had to exercise its statutory powers in 2018?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: What would have been the total number of cases? Were there hundreds where the office did not have to use its statutory powers?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: That is in most cases.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: With regard to compliance, organisations must submit an annual report, which is very basic information.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: Will that change under amending legislation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: I notice in the detailed report supplied to the committee that there is a high rate of return of the annual reports but they are late. There is a significant problem with late returns.

Public Accounts Committee: 2018 Financial Statements of the Charities Regulatory Authority (21 Nov 2019)

Catherine Connolly: What are the figures for this? What are the penalties?

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