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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: As such, we have more civil servants.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: I would have imagined that if we were looking at saving money and streamlining services, we would have fewer staff not more. What I see is that we have set up a new unit and have more staff and more costs. I am trying to establish how we have saved money in the circumstances. I assume from what Ms Murphy-Fagan is saying that there may have been people in the line Departments who were...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: However, there are more civil servants in the system. That is the point. Ms Murphy-Fagan had to take on more staff to work in her office. Those who were doing the work previously may be doing something else now, but there are still more civil servants. In that scenario, how are we achieving a saving?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: I have here a Deloitte report which is an examination of shared services in the Irish public service and internationally. This report cites where money could be saved and how much, which is why I asked whether there was a Deloitte report. Who commissioned the report? Was it the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: Did it host a conference on shared services around that time or shortly afterwards?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: Did Ms Murphy-Fagan personally speak at a Deloitte conference or event on shared services?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: Was there a Deloitte conference or event on shared services at any time?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: Did Ms Murphy-Fagan speak at any event organised by Deloitte?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: Who hosted the event?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: I ask Ms Murphy-Fagan to come back to us. I draw her attention to a report by the Comptroller and Auditor General's office in Britain and one from the Home Office because they have gone down this road. In fact, in the article from December 2015 which I referred to earlier, Ms Murphy-Fagan said Ireland was behind the curve on shared services. What did Ms Murphy-Fagan mean by "behind the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: How exactly were we behind the curve?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: Ms Murphy-Fagan used the terminology in her own opening statement on the modernisation of corporate administration and professionalism. I do not have a difficulty with the use of the word "corporate" but it suggests something that is not normally used in the world of public services. I am looking then at what happened in Britain where the services were put into a shared service office to...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: I am not asking Ms Murphy-Fagan to comment. I am making an observation from my own perspective. I think I am being logical when I say that if this has happened in other European member states, and in fact one newspaper report states: "Government, SSCL and arvato, which is the company that got the contract, are all to blame for shared services centres failing to achieve value for money." So...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 10: Shared Services - Management of Salary Overpayments
Appropriation Accounts 2016
Vote 18 - National Shared Services Office
(1 Feb 2018)

David Cullinane: The Chairman would understand my suspicions that it could potentially happen down the road, but obviously that is not a matter for Ms Murphy-Fagan. I am just making an observation, which I think is relevant, given what has happened elsewhere. I thank Ms Murphy-Fagan for her answers

Affordable Housing: Motion [Private Members] (30 Jan 2018)

David Cullinane: This motion is designed to say to the Government that we need to do an awful lot more in terms of providing affordable housing. Nobody in the Chamber would disagree with that but the problem is that we do not have anything like the action we need. It galls me to listen to Fianna Fáil Deputies sometimes. Deputy Casey spoke about Fine Gael as the party for the rich and for developers...

Written Answers — Department of Education and Skills: Institutes of Technology (30 Jan 2018)

David Cullinane: 225. To ask the Minister for Education and Skills if his attention has been drawn to a case (details supplied); and if he will make a statement on the matter. [4102/18]

Written Answers — Department of Housing, Planning, and Local Government: Mortgage Lending (30 Jan 2018)

David Cullinane: 635. To ask the Minister for Housing, Planning, and Local Government if the first-time buyers scheme is in addition to the existing council home loan or replacing it; if so, the new deposit required; if divorced or separated persons will be considered under the scheme if the family home has been sold; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [4220/18]

Questions on Promised Legislation (25 Jan 2018)

David Cullinane: Is the Tánaiste in a position to update the House today as to when the commission of investigation will be established to address the concerns of the victims of Bill Kenneally? This is a very serious issue where concerns have been raised about the handling of this case by An Garda Síochána, the HSE, Tusla and the old health board. I certainly do not want to make politics with...

Leaders' Questions (25 Jan 2018)

David Cullinane: The Tánaiste has not answered my question on the broader issue of accountability. This Government has had to set up more commissions and tribunals of investigation than any other Government in the history of the State. I welcome that all of those were set up, as they were necessary, but the reason they are necessary is the number of crises in public life across all services. Why do we...

Leaders' Questions (25 Jan 2018)

David Cullinane: Name them. Who has been held to account?

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