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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Chairman, are we not discussing amendments Nos. 82 and 83?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Amendment No. 83 states: In page 18, line 29, to delete "on an agricultural holding" and substitute the following: “, nor a constituent of parkland or wood pasture, including ancient, heritage and veteran trees, on an agricultural holding, including farm forestry,”.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Is the Minister of State telling me that for discussion purposes this amendment should have been linked to amendment No. 88?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Is there any possibility we could discuss amendment No. 88 with these amendments?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I have said my piece. When we reach amendment No. 88 we will hear the reply.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: We should quit while we are ahead.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I move amendment No. 77:In page 16, between lines 39 and 40, to insert the following:“(i) to a fixed payment notice as provided for in section 23,”.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: If that is the view of the Parliamentary Counsel, I will accept it.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Can I just say-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Okay.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: Can we discuss the section? As with the previous amendment which was just defeated, I ask the Minister of State to consider this issue again on Report Stage, because what is there in print contains plenty of lines but is a toothless tiger. I ask him to consider coming back with something that gives a firm timeline and without numerous get-out-of-jail clauses.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: On a point of clarification-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: If this section is introduced into the Bill, will we be able to table Report Stage amendments to the section?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I move amendment No. 69: In page 15, between lines 36 and 37, to insert the following:"(b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), licences for thinning operations up to clearfell stage shall be issued to include all standard commercial thinning which accords with good forestry practice;".

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I move amendment No. 73: In page 16, line 14, after "specified" to insert the following:"as long as such conditions are in line with good forest practice and generally concur with the forest management objectives of the forest owner".

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: My amendment No. 78 is ruled out of order for the usual reason, namely, the second part of it would impose a charge on the Exchequer. It is one of the bizarre rules of this House.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: However, I had proposed a period of eight weeks from the time the applicant would submit the final information. If we look at what the Minister is doing here, there are two approaches. The first is what I would call the legislative approach to which county councils have to adhere in planning. It is the eight weeks approach, that is, eight weeks from the time one put in the last...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: The idea in my amendment No. 69 is that one will get permission to do all the felling, including standard thinning, and that one would not need to apply continually for licences at every stage of the process. Thinning is silviculture. It is not viable economically, but it is good silviculture practice.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: When was the previous Act enacted?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Forestry Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (6 Mar 2014)

Éamon Ó Cuív: I have no recollection of ever being required by the Department with responsibility for forestry to make any return as is provided for in section 13(1)(b).

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