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Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: I thank Ms Sugden for that very insightful perspective on the nuances within unionism. It is important for people to understand that it is not solely about the issue of identity per se.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: I thank Senator Clonan.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: I thank Ms Sugden, Professor Shirlow, Ms Grundle, Mr. Dougherty and Mr. Moore for their contributions. I invite them to stay with us. Ms Sugden is joining us remotely and is most welcome to stay to hear the rest of the contributions if she wishes. I know she is busy, however, and may need to leave us at some stage. I thank her for her participation as part of this session. We will move...

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: Mr. Gunther Thumann. Senator, others wish to contribute.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: I thank the Senator for that contribution. One of the key parts of this debate is the issue around previous referendums and learning lessons, which we will address in the next session. As some people have said to me, we are fortunate to have had Brexit, in the sense that we see what an unprepared-for referendum can do. Many people have said to me also, with which I tend to agree, that...

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: No, I have no problem with the informality.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: That is a good question, Mr. Graham, and I will hand it back to the Senators.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

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Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: There were a number of questions directed at people who contributed earlier and I want to let them respond.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: The point former Senator Marshall made around people listening is the big point on this. Professor Shirlow made that point as well about the data and listening to it, what happened in the Brexit referendum where nobody was listening to the other point of view and the data, and also the structures that are being put around in unionism in relation to the case for the union, which many here are...

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Dr. Stephen Farry (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: On behalf of the committee, I welcome Dr. Stephen Farry from the Alliance Party and his parliamentary assistant, Mr. Maurice Campbell. I thank them for being with us and engaging with the committee. Before we hear their opening statements, I must read out this statement. I remind witnesses of the long-standing parliamentary practice that they should not criticise or make charges against...

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: I thank Professor Shirlow for his analysis of the situation. As I said at the start, it is important that people hear analysis and different points of view. I call on Ms Grundle to make her opening statement.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: I thank Mr. Moore for his contribution and insight. We are asking people to tell us about what they are living through rather than hearing it second-hand or reading about it in the papers and getting interpretations through journalists. We want to hear from people who are living through it. Before I go to Senators, we have Mr. Dougherty from the North West Cultural Partnership.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: I thank all the Senators for their questions. I will turn now to the witnesses, perhaps Ms Sugden first, if she would like to respond to the questions that were posed and to add any other thoughts that she may have.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: I thank Mr. Pollak for his insight into the challenges. He has brought a perspective and raised a lot of questions, which is what this engagement is about in terms of people's views and opinions here and in Northern Ireland. I open up the debate to Senators.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: Go on.

Seanad Public Consultation Committee: Other Voices on the Constitutional Future of the Island of Ireland: Unionist Community (14 Oct 2022)

Mark Daly: I believe Mr. Graham might end up getting a seat in Seanad Éireann with questioning like that. I call Mr. Pollak. Before I do so, I welcome Mr. Brian Kerr, who happens to be down from Northern Ireland and on a visit to Leinster House today.

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