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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Citizens Assembly Report on Biodiversity Loss: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: If we were to throw that money into the general economy at a point where the economy is already at capacity, it could be inflationary.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Citizens Assembly Report on Biodiversity Loss: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Citizens Assembly Report on Biodiversity Loss: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: That could be a strength, as we heard earlier, because it could involve the reporting back to individual citizens that their money has been spent in a green way, like we see with the national lottery. I am not making a direct analogy in any way, shape or form but there would be a citizen engagement piece. I know it would create extra work-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Has the Department been asked to report under the well-being framework as part of that preparation for the summer economic statement?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: However, at the moment it is keeping that separate from this performance reporting mechanism.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I understand that. My related question refers to the sustainable development goals, SDGs. Has the Department received instruction from the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform to begin reporting under that framework as well? I put the same question to the representatives from the Department of Social Protection last week at the respective...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: One of the things that was aired last week was that we get a performance report on the one hand and then we have this separate mechanism for reporting on the well-being framework and a separate mechanism to report on the sustainable development goals. As a committee member trying to analyse performance reporting, it would make eminent sense if one process spoke more coherently to the other....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: It is one of the things the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform requests from the Department of Education as indicators, is it not?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: The Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform asks Departments for metric that need to be clear and simple, without sector-specific jargon and initialisms. I note school transport is listed on that as some of the key outputs from the public service performance report. There is No. 4, for example, and No. 6 at post-primary. Thus, it appears within the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: The programme for Government was written in 2020. I remember being in the room for it. Now we are in 2023.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I will pick up on that last point. I raised the point at a previous meeting that I am not sure the Department is keying into the idea of what the industry would call scope 3 emissions, which are the emissions external to the school. We are focused on solar panels and the energy efficiency of the build stock, and that is entirely appropriate, but we are not looking, particularly in new...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Does Mr. Mac Fhlannchadha accept that teachers often feel a pressure from the textbook?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Are we taking into consideration that the benefit of this measure is concentrated on large suppliers and publishers in particular?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: Are they hearing the same things? I am hearing that the smaller suppliers are getting squeezed out by the bigger suppliers even in terms of the volume of books they have to store and arrange for the schools but particularly because of how the payment scheme works; they have to take on a large debt to receive it back from the Department. The parents used to come in and buy on a more...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: When are we likely to see the outcome of that evaluation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I am looking for a ballpark date. Are we talking about this year or next?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: The evaluation will be completed before February or March next year.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Climate Action: Citizens Assembly Report on Biodiversity Loss: Discussion (Resumed) (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: It might not be personally attractive to everyone, if Mr. Owens gets where I am going. People who are very well-off might have retrofitted their houses and might be driving electric vehicles. They might have a few bob in the bank. Could we find a way of putting that money to work from a nature and biodiversity perspective where investment is so needed? That is where the value of a green...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: I have lot of questions so I may have to save some for the second round. I want to start by picking up where Deputy Jim O'Callaghan left off. He mentioned equality budgeting, performance budgeting and well-being budgeting and I was struck by the fact that there was no specific reference to the well-being framework. That framework was updated as recently as June of this year. I understand...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Skills: Public Service Performance Report 2022: Discussion (24 Oct 2023)

Marc Ó Cathasaigh: My first question is one I put to the witnesses' colleagues from the Department of Education this morning. The witnesses have detailed some of the work they do around equality budgeting. Have they had direction from the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform with regard to reporting under the well-being framework and also under the sustainable...

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